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Screen Actors Guild Strike Likely To Affect Noah Hawley’s Alien Series

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As the conflict between the Writers Guild of America and Hollywood continues, the Screen Actor’s Guild has also joined the battle against the studio system. With many US productions already shut down by the writers strikes, some American productions taking place aboard has managed to circumvent the strikes.

With SAG having now joined the fight, those productions with union actors are now going to find themselves struggling and this likely includes FX and Noah Hawley’s Alien series.

As outlined by Variety, several members of the series’ as yet unannounced cast are believed to be members of SAG and while might not cause an entire shutdown of production, will leave the series having to figure out some problems if the strikes continues into September.

FX’s “Alien,” a series adaptation of the “Alien” franchise written by Noah Hawley and Ridley Scott, is currently in pre-production in Thailand. Sources indicate the show will be a large-scale undertaking that’s reportedly booked out multiple Bangkok studios and hired vast quantities of lighting equipment.

However, a mix of SAG-AFTRA and Equity members comprise the cast (two of the main leads are believed to be SAG-AFTRA members), meaning that production will need to work around the absence of key cast members. The show’s Thailand-based producer Chris Lowenstein declined to comment.

Screen Actors Guild Strike Likely To Affect Noah Hawley's Alien Series

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While not currently filming, Hawley’s Alien series is expected to go in front of cameras in September in Thailand. Variety also noted above that the series had “reportedly booked out multiple Bangkok studios.” While there’s been little in the way of official news for the upcoming series, Hawley did recently comment on his intent to bring mystery back to the Alien.

“When FX asked me if I was interested in adapting what is now a franchise, but for me was always this film, I had to think about what it was about the movie that inspired originally and would I be able to create that for an audience. Of course, you can only see Alien for the first time once and there’s something so unpredictable to the creature at the heart of it, and so disturbing about it, that after 6 movies you think “well, maybe there’s no mystery left to it.” What’s interesting to me is to try to remystify the franchise. The creature, the story, for a modern audience in the way that my 15-year-old won’t think is slow, is the requirement. “

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  3. Eal
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    Quote from: Local Trouble on Aug 09, 2023, 06:20:47 PMIt's as if they've been letting ChatGPT write their scripts for the past ten years anyway.

    Design-by-committee movies function similarly to a large language model, so yeah. They could literally do it and probably get away with it in most some cases. That goes to my unsupported contention that most studio heads could be replaced by AIs and nobody would know the difference. All financial computation, all demographics and marketing, all business-like and giving the appearance of intelligence, linguistically anyway, but no soul or brain.
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  4. SiL
    Posted
    The only one that seems likely is number 2, which seems poised to happen regardless as studios realise people don't have as much time post-pandemic and aren't ravenously consuming content like they were.
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  5. Ingwar
    Posted
    I naively hope the upcoming aftermath of strikes will be this:

    1. Blockbusters will be cheaper (nowadays movies are ridiculously expensive) because cheaper means more creative freedom. More freedom, better quality product.
    2. There will be less movies made each year. Let's be honest, majority of movies are sheer garbage. It's quantity over quality but it should be the other way round. Less is more.
    3. Less CGI, more practical effects. Back to the roots.
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  6. SiL
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    Do they not realise that the movies audiences are going to replace with their own home-made AI creations are the blockbusters? Nobody's going to sit down with MyOwnMovie AI and make a twee indie romcom, they're going for spectacle.

    Star Wars fans will reshoot half your f**king TV show and edit it into something new, they're going to pounce on these tools when they're mature.

    Hollywood has determined that the most profitable way to do business is exploit existing IPS - sequels, remakes, adaptations, reboots, etc - because of the inbuilt audience and brand recognition. But that means a whole lot of audiences who have very specific ideas about what they want to see in those movies. When they have the tools to make them with minimal effort, they'll take it.
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  9. Local Trouble
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    I asked ChatGPT to write a Marvel scene with Joss Whedon style quips. This is what I got:

    INT. AVENGERS TOWER - NIGHT

    The Avengers are gathered around a table, planning their next move. TONY STARK (Iron Man) is at the head of the table, smirking. STEVE ROGERS (Captain America), NATASHA ROMANOFF (Black Widow), BRUCE BANNER (Hulk), THOR, and CLINT BARTON (Hawkeye) are all present.

    TONY: So, we're all agreed then? We go in, we smash, we grab, we save the day. Easy as pie.

    STEVE: Pie isn't easy to make, Tony.

    TONY: You would know, Cap. How's the 1940s recipe book treating you?

    NATASHA: Can we focus, please? The world's in danger, remember?

    BRUCE: (dryly) Is it ever not?

    CLINT: I think it took a day off last Tuesday.

    THOR: A day off? On Asgard, we battle every moment!

    TONY: (grinning) And they say I never take a break.

    STEVE: (serious) Enough. We need a plan, not jokes.

    TONY: (mock salute) Aye aye, Captain Serious.

    NATASHA: (to Tony) You know, for a genius, you act like a child.

    TONY: (feigning hurt) Ouch. Right in the ego.

    BRUCE: (muttering) What ego?

    THOR: (confused) What is this "ego" you speak of?

    CLINT: It's like Mjölnir, but for Tony's head.

    TONY: (laughing) Nice one, Legolas.

    STEVE: (firmly) Enough! We have work to do.

    TONY: (sobering) You're right, Cap. Let's save the world. Again.

    NATASHA: (smirking) It's what we do best.

    BRUCE: (dryly) And they say practice makes perfect.

    They all get up, ready to face the challenge ahead, but not without one last quip.

    TONY: Alright, team, let's go be heroes. Or, you know, just another day at the office.

    They head out, ready to face whatever comes next.

    FADE TO BLACK.

    That's all Disney has to do now.  They'll rake in the billions and never pay another living writer ever again.
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  12. Nightmare Asylum
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    https://twitter.com/THR/status/1689241852971569152

    Iger's been flirting with this for years and years now. Would be absolutely f**king terrible if it were to go through. Disney gutting important studios, impacting the industry as we know it, and then selling odds and ends for spare parts in order to bring forth yet another merger that should in no way be legal?

    I hope this never steps up to become anything more than a pipe dream in the rotting brains of some shitty corporate overlords.


    EDIT:

    https://twitter.com/Collider/status/1689283106916782080

    Also incredibly f**king vile...
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  27. Eal
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    At this point, even if it ruins an Alien movie, I'm happy if studios completely implode structurally. Hoisted up by their own petard so to speak.

    If the strike doesn't do it, then the AI sweep that will come will definitely. It wouldn't be a 'revolution' in any sense, but more like a slow death and beautiful rebirth of something new.

    Think about it: if writers could be 'replaced', then executives, CEOs and Investors can too. It's not that they'd accept that...but if you /showed/ it was possible, you'd basically be stripping away any importance and belief in them that they hold as people at the top of the food chain.
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  29. bobcunk
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    I think Marineland bought the surrounding city property so people couldn't protest infront of them.

    Quote from: RIP77 on Jul 16, 2023, 02:55:41 PMFede's Alien was filmed without being able to make changes to the script on set. It's something normal and they couldn't because of the strike. The director can make small changes to the script on set, but no more.

    But what if they did anyway? What kind of fined and penalties are we talking? I know in other businesses people bread rules and laws all the time because the profits are greater than the fines if caught.

    The re-recordings are important and more so in this context where they could not improve the script on set.

    All movies need to improve the script on set and especially small or large reshoots.

    Now they can't do reshoots without actors.
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  32. Enjoy
    Posted
    I heard studio execs had trees cut down that provided shade to the protesters.  Trees owned by the city. Imagine that mindset.
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  34. Gimitko
    Posted
    The crew of the series has added Nane Cornelius as "set decoration buyer Europe". Looking at his resume, he works only on films shot in Berlin. Pretty high likelihood Berlin will be the European location this will be filming at.

    Also that fuels my theory Prodigy City is meant to be in futuristic Germany. Or at least is purposefully Germany-coded lol.
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  35. RIP77
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    Fede's Alien was filmed without being able to make changes to the script on set. It's something normal and they couldn't because of the strike. The director can make small changes to the script on set, but no more.



    The re-recordings are important and more so in this context where they could not improve the script on set.

    All movies need to improve the script on set and especially small or large reshoots.

    Now they can't do reshoots without actors.
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  37. Immortan Jonesy
    Posted
    Oh, I don't disagree with the OP, it's just that just because someone with some degree of authority says something, it doesn't mean they're right as you seem to be aware (not to mention Michio Kaku being cited as an expert on everything, I'm not necessarily addressing you though) and when their're right, well it's more like...

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    ...plus the main job of these rock stars of science is to serve as science  comunicators for people like you and me in the media 😭👉👈 which is great overall🤓🙏 with Carl Sagan being my all-time favourite 8)🙏 . But as you may notice, they are not always so involved in the real world of academic research...and also☝ it's no secret, however, that the line between science fiction (more of a space opera style ;D ) and Mr. Kaku's intellectual claims is rather thin...I also forgot to mention how vaguely I know how science works.

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  38. Ingwar
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    We deviate from the topic. I don't care what he has to say about UFO and whether some UFO maniacs love him or not. We were talking about ChatGPT. One has nothing to do with the other. Also, let's be honest, every physicist is wrong about something regarding their field (Einstein was wrong many times) as we're still in infancy when it comes to understanding the nature of the universe. There is nothing wrong to be wrong when it comes to science as long as we learn from the mistakes. This is how we evolve.

    Question: did anything that Kaku said about ChatGPT during interview with Rogan is wrong?
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  39. Immortan Jonesy
    Posted
    ▶Stopped clock

    ▶Argument from authority

    Quote from: Still Collating... on Jul 15, 2023, 01:42:35 AM
    Quote from: Ingwar on Jul 14, 2023, 09:57:33 PMCan you actually train ChatGPT? According to Michio Kaku it's just a chat bot. It doesn't create anything by itself, unless Kaku is wrong. It homogenizes existing stuff already made by humans. In this case stuff written by Sapkowski. Therefore referring to your post: I'm pretty sure it would have done better job than Witcher witters as it would simply follow plot and dialogue in the books without adding anything from itself as it's incapable of doing so.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSpv4zX9dF8

    From what I heard, it's a very capable predictive text generator. Not sure if what Kaku said here is wrong, buuuut he's wrong about a bunch of stuff regarding physics (just watch some of his debates with his collogues), so nothing I hear from him or Joe, I can't take seriously. 

    ...not to mantion how mutch his UFO fans love him.

    https://twitter.com/WeAreLight05/status/1545635031770595329
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  40. XENOMORPHOSIS
    Posted
    Worryingly producers and executives aren't likely to take the strikes seriously and potentially exploit loopholes and cheaper methods which will impact the crew, craftsman, set builders, technicians, cast many people in the production who are inadequately compensated and the quality of the show could suffer.
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  42. Still Collating...
    Posted
    Quote from: Ingwar on Jul 14, 2023, 09:57:33 PMCan you actually train ChatGPT? According to Michio Kaku it's just a chat bot. It doesn't create anything by itself, unless Kaku is wrong. It homogenizes existing stuff already made by humans. In this case stuff written by Sapkowski. Therefore referring to your post: I'm pretty sure it would have done better job than Witcher witters as it would simply follow plot and dialogue in the books without adding anything from itself as it's incapable of doing so.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSpv4zX9dF8

    From what I heard, it's a very capable predictive text generator. Not sure if what Kaku said here is wrong, buuuut he's wrong about a bunch of stuff regarding physics (just watch some of his debates with his collogues), so nothing I hear from him or Joe, I can't take seriously.


    And F off to the lousy CEO's who don't want to pay people what they deserve.   
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  46. Ingwar
    Posted
    Can you actually train ChatGPT? According to Michio Kaku it's just a chat bot. It doesn't create anything by itself, unless Kaku is wrong. It homogenizes existing stuff already made by humans. In this case stuff written by Sapkowski. Therefore referring to your post: I'm pretty sure it would have done better job than Witcher witters as it would simply follow plot and dialogue in the books without adding anything from itself as it's incapable of doing so.

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  48. Ingwar
    Posted
    QuoteHollywood Studios' WGA Strike Endgame Is To Let Writers Go Broke Before Resuming Talks In Fall

    EXCLUSIVE, updated with AMPTP statement: Regardless of whether SAG-AFTRA goes on strike this week, the studios have no intention of sitting down with the Writers Guild for several more months.

    "I think we're in for a long strike, and they're going to let it bleed out," said one industry veteran intimate with the POV of studio CEOs.

    With the scribes' strike now finishing its 71st day and the actors' union just 30 hours from a possible labor action of its own, the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers are planning to dig in hard this fall before even entertaining the idea of more talks with the WGA, I've learned. "Not Halloween precisely, but late October, for sure, is the intention," says a top-tier producer close to the Carol Lombardini-run AMPTP.

    While some dismiss this as just "cynical strike talk," studio and streamer sources around town confirm the strategy. They also confirm that the plan to grind down the guild has long been in the works for a labor cycle that all sides agree is a game-changer one way or another for Hollywood.

    "It's been agreed to for months, even before the WGA went out," one executive said. "Nobody wanted a strike, but everybody knew this was make or break."

    Receiving positive feedback from Wall Street since the WGA went on strike May 2, Warner Bros Discovery, Apple, Netflix, Amazon, Disney, Paramount and others have become determined to "break the WGA," as one studio exec blatantly put it. 

    To do so, the studios and the AMPTP believe that by October most writers will be running out of money after five months on the picket lines and no work.

    "The endgame is to allow things to drag on until union members start losing their apartments and losing their houses," a studio executive told Deadline. Acknowledging the cold-as-ice approach, several other sources reiterated the statement. One insider called it "a cruel but necessary evil."

    The studios and streamers' next think financially strapped writers would go to WGA leadership and demand they restart talks before what could be a very cold Christmas. In that context, the studios and streamers feel they would be in a position to dictate most of the terms of any possible deal.

    The severe method comes out of the guild's successful battle with the agencies in 2021 over dismantling the lucrative practice of packaging. The WGA picked off one agency after another until final holdout WME backed down, a tactic seen as a warning sign by many in the studio and streamer C-suites.

    Convinced that "giving in," as another insider put it, to the writers will result in every contract cycle from the WGA, IATSE, the Teamsters and more ending in a strike, the AMPTP is aiming for the bottom line.

    Publicly, the AMPTP are refuting the so-called October surprise.

    "These anonymous people are not speaking on behalf of the AMPTP or member companies, who are committed to reaching a deal and getting our industry back to work," a spokesperson for the organization says.

    Still, since the WGA called its first strike in 15 years in early May, there have been no discussions between the AMPTP and the guild despite persistent public guild offers to meet. Sources close to the AMPTP insist there has been no direct offer from the WGA leadership to resume talks.

    Still, as pickets went up and productions shut down in the strike's early weeks, studio bosses almost uniformly offered banal praise to the writers but no public proposals to get the them back to work. In the meantime, as network schedules shift to unscripted shows and streamers buy up foreign content, the studios and streamers have been saving money on shuttered productions and cost-cutting.

    On a parallel track and reinforcing the AMPTP's divide-and-conquer approach, negotiations with the Director's Guild in late May proved a success, with ratification coming last month. Even if the 160,000-member SAG-AFTRA joins the WGA on the picket lines, the studios hope to get the actors back to the negotiating table in a few weeks.

    A new SAG-AFTRA deal would not see production restart, but it could allow actors to promote projects already set for release. A move that studios hope would further the WGA going into the latter part of the year.

    The WGA did not respond to request for comment today from Deadline. If or when they do we will update this post.

    https://deadline.com/2023/07/writers-strike-hollywood-studios-deal-fight-wga-actors-1235434335/
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