The chairman of FX, John Landgraf, has been speaking at a Television Critics Association presentation, where he talked a little about Noah Hawley’s upcoming Alien series for FX. Thanks to Deadline we’ve got a look at what Landgraf divulged about the upcoming series.
Talking about how well Hawley’s Alien would fit in, Landgraf commented that the show “will feel like a part of the cinematic universe you’re familiar with in terms of Alien,” further elaborating that “Noah’s very conscious of the fact that there’s a cinematic universe” but with “some inventiveness and originality that is uniquely Noah.”
Artwork by Declan Loftus commissioned for AvP Galaxy.
The FX chairman also discussed the scope of the series, stating that the series is “a beast … a really big, world-building exercise.” Landgraf also stated that they’re currently expecting a 2023 release, but adding that “we want to get it right” meaning that’s not yet set in stone.
Noah Hawley spoke to Vanity Fair in July where he revealed that they were currently looking to start filming in spring of 2022. Thanks to Willie Goldman and The Eighth Passenger for the news.
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The author talks a bit about seeding elements the android-centric third arc in this interview here, starting at roughly the 5:30 timestamp:
https://www.perfectorganism.com/home/2021/8/25/171-discussing-the-first-complete-arc-of-marvels-alien-with-writer-phillip-kennedy-johnson
There was another interview (perhaps on the above website, perhaps somewhere else?) where he implied that the third arc would be 12 issues instead of the usual 6 that arcs one and two covered, but I can't seem to recall where I read/heard that one. Honestly it might even be later in this very interview, but I don't have time to listen to the whole thing again right now to confirm.
Unfortunately no word on the status of Larroca, which I can only imagine means he's still sticking around for the third arc.
You're telling me! The amount of wine stained t-shirts I've thrown out already....
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Shame the cat is out of the bag with the creature effects for us lot as well
In seriousness, I do like the layer of mystique naming the film "Skulls" adds.
I know the comic hasn't directly acknowledged Alien: Resurrection, but in that regard it does almost feel like it is setting the stage for the Autons. And riffing on the "legacy" of David's mentality and his goals in the process (albeit, once again, indirectly and not by name).
I think the third arc of the comic, which will kickstart in issue 13 and is apparently supposed to run for a dozen issues rather than six, is going to delve more into the AI side of things as its primary focus.
I don't think anything here is explicitly setting up the show (the various parties at Marvel, Titan, and Cold Iron can't even seem to keep things straight among one another), and the on-screen material is always in flux itself, but I wouldn't be shocked if Hawley does plan on delving more into the AI side of things as well based on his quote, perhaps even with a similar lens as to how Ridley explored the Alien as a sort of near-perfect "construct" with direct ties to artificial beings in Covenant.
No clue. But Prometheus' relative success is a big reason why I want Dan Trachtenberg's "Skulls" to keep its secret Predator movie marketing plan intact (even though the cat is already out of the bag for those who follow the entertainment industry). A portion of the general audience who might normally dismiss another Alien or Predator film out of hand..."Bah, another Predator movie"... might read the "Skulls" streaming synopsis about Native Americans in pre-colonial times stalked by a creature and decide to check it out, love it, and become a fan where they wouldn't have had an opportunity to with marketing so straightforward.
At that point, however, not calling it "Alien", and claiming that it sets up a whole new universe, was the smart thing to do.
On the other hand, if it was branded Alien 0 (example), the first proper Alien film in 15 years (97-2012) starring an exciting cast sprinkled with A-list talent, from Ridley Scott no less - that would have done significant business.
During the 3-D boom too.
What percent do we think knew this was loosely related to Alien? Musta been 80% odd at least, that went out and bought a ticket still.
Less, I think. It's been my perspective less. Alien and Predator has a seen one - seen them all cloud with some of the general public that they'll just dismiss new entries out of hand, especially with later previous entries being bad. But a brand new science fiction movie "Prometheus" with a stellar cast? That's interesting. I knew some co-workers (not followers of internet movie news like we are) that went to check out Prometheus having no clue it was an Alien prequel.
And LOL, it has nothing to do with AvP or Resurrection. The 'prequels' are just plain bad Alien films and ruin the lore and mystery with a contrived world-shrinking explanation.
The "prequels" are always non-canon to me forever.
Good question. And I'm not sure. I feel there's arguments for and against this specific brand recognition.
Yeah, pretty much. Hand on heart I left the IMAX after both films thinking 6/10.
I don't think the execution of the Alien itself has really been right since Aliens (I love Alien 3 - but the dodgy vfx is a well-trodden story) - by the time Alien: Covenant rolled around most of us were sighing it's another missed opportunity. It was generic 101
For my second viewing of Covenant in the theater, I brought a group of friends with me. After the movie, one of them told me that he had no idea he was even watching a prequel until he realized he was watching the "origin" of the Alien.
I don't think they could've done much to make Covenant a success honestly. Some people dipped out after Prometheus and a lot were probably confused about what Covenant even was. I think Blomkamp's Alien 5 could've done well, though. Still glad it never got made lol.
If Prometheus had been called 'Alien: Prometheus' would more people have gone to it, or less?
None of these points (except maybe the last one) were known to the people who didn't buy a ticket to the movie. They just simply couldn't be arsed in the first place. If all the people who went to the movie and had these complaints had demanded their money back, then you'd be onto something.
As much as I love Alien3, I'll be the first to admit that there hasn't been a truly, all around crowd-pleasing Alien movie for 35 years. Much like Jaws, people do eventually get tired of perpetually inferior sequels.
A little confirmation might just be the biggest confirmation we've gotten since it was announced.
My thoughts exactly. Main issue I have with prequels is that they inevitably would have to link back to the original movie and I for the life of me can't think of a satisfying way to do that. I wish they would just abandon whole "prequel" aspect and continue it from Covenant as it's own story without connecting it to 1979 Alien
Just regard Prometheus & Covenant as stories taking place in another dark corner of the Alien universe, instead of prequels.
David is somewhere out there, creating his version of the Alien and ruling his little biomechanical kingdom, with no ties to LV-426 and the Nostromo.
To be fair he's spoken like this for a while. I remember he had quite an explicit dig at having to put the Alien back in during a Hollywood round table interview that included Seth Rogen.
Obviously I know nothing but the feelers I'm getting is this might be like Prometheus and start life as an Alien project before evolving into something with tangible links, only. Here we go again
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Waiting on this news with bated breath...
I think Scott's plan was to just keep cranking out more films if the previous one did well. Then Covenant underperformed and the studio probably lost interest. I'm glad they're using elements from the prequels in new stuff though.
Pls tell me this means there's an army of Michael Fassbenders in it
What's interesting is that he pretty much confirms that Fox torpedoed his ideas for Prometheus 2 and made him include the aliens. They treated Prometheus as a failure and it backfired spectacularly.
Because I like David/Walter, I disagree. I don't want him to be killed off-screen for some stupidity. Or that the new film again had an open end. Or it became the beginning of a new trilogy. Again. Just keep David as an eternal cosmic threat, which hiding among the stars.
I still remember the plans about Prometheus saga - it will be a trilogy.
And the people who thought and still think that the Covenant is the second film are wrong.
Because during Covenant's filming, marketing, releasing there were a Ridley's words that the Prometheus was a mistake and the Covenant is a new start of a new trilogy. Not a Prometheus trilogy, but a Covenant trilogy.
Also, he said that he could make two, three or even six more films as a prequels.
P.S. iirc in 2019/2020 I've read that Covenant goes wrong and he want to make another film, which will be a start for a new trilogy. Semi-clear start. Again.
Oh, yeah. From what we've seen so far, it certainly is.
Just awaiting something back before we share this to the front page, but honestly I just think this is a little tongue in cheek.
"Then I'd do ... Alienbladerunner. Hehehe, I'm not gonna be modest about that"
Man has quite an ego. Can't really say he didn't earn it though
He said it was too long or something
Umm... Mr. Scott, I think that the beast is not the cause of lower box-office...
Yeah. It looks like he didn't get his piece of cake. But hey - he kept the franchise around 10 years. The fresh blood is extremely necessary.
Anyway if we never see David again that would be the biggest waste of a character ever.
(then Ridley would truly die of a salt overdose)
Riddles is the Joker lighting fire to all that is sane in the Alienverse.
And someone else is inevitably gonna come around afterwards and recontextualize it all anyways, has always happens from installment to installment in this series.
I've been tired of him since Prometheus was an absolute trainwreck, I'm glad everybody else is catching up and maybe with enough negative fan reaction he can be removed from future projects.
I dont even think his other scifi is bad. I enjoyed the Martian, and what little I've seen so far out of Raised by Wolves was interesting, I'm just tired of him in THIS franchise.
You know its bad if you are getting annoyed at him.
My main counterpoint to his own argument about the franchise is that if he truly thinks it is dead with nowhere to go, WHY DOES HE KEEP WANTING TO BE INVOLVED?
Go on back to Raised by Wolves old fella.
It really does seem like he didn't want people in his sandbox which is strange because he really didn't create alien Dan obann did