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Noah Hawley’s Alien Series Is “A Beast … A Really Big, World-Building Exercise”

The chairman of FX, John Landgraf, has been speaking at a Television Critics Association presentation, where he talked a little about Noah Hawley’s upcoming Alien series for FX. Thanks to Deadline we’ve got a look at what Landgraf divulged about the upcoming series.

Talking about how well Hawley’s Alien would fit in, Landgraf commented that the show “will feel like a part of the cinematic universe you’re familiar with in terms of Alien,” further elaborating that “Noah’s very conscious of the fact that there’s a cinematic universe” but with “some inventiveness and originality that is uniquely Noah.”

 Noah Hawley's Alien Series Is "A Beast … A Really Big, World-Building Exercise"

Artwork by Declan Loftus commissioned for AvP Galaxy.

The FX chairman also discussed the scope of the series, stating that the series is “a beast … a really big, world-building exercise.” Landgraf also stated that they’re currently expecting a 2023 release, but adding that “we want to get it right” meaning that’s not yet set in stone.

Noah Hawley spoke to Vanity Fair in July where he revealed that they were currently looking to start filming in spring of 2022. Thanks to Willie Goldman and The Eighth Passenger for the news.

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  1. Nightmare Asylum
    How you know about that comic Info?You wound happen to know if larroca gets kick off as the artist that be a dream come true

    The author talks a bit about seeding elements the android-centric third arc in this interview here, starting at roughly the 5:30 timestamp:

    https://www.perfectorganism.com/home/2021/8/25/171-discussing-the-first-complete-arc-of-marvels-alien-with-writer-phillip-kennedy-johnson

    There was another interview (perhaps on the above website, perhaps somewhere else?) where he implied that the third arc would be 12 issues instead of the usual 6 that arcs one and two covered, but I can't seem to recall where I read/heard that one. Honestly it might even be later in this very interview, but I don't have time to listen to the whole thing again right now to confirm.

    Unfortunately no word on the status of Larroca, which I can only imagine means he's still sticking around for the third arc.
  2. Bughuntwilson
    There something interesting I noticed about alien issue 7 that nobody seems to be talking about  they bring up something called the extinction conlies.Conlies that are controlled by AI.In a interview Noah Hawley talks about how the show is about man primordial past and his AI control future.And it seems this is a recent thing to in the alien timeline so we can guess the show takes place after aliens.

    I know the comic hasn't directly acknowledged Alien: Resurrection, but in that regard it does almost feel like it is setting the stage for the Autons. And riffing on the "legacy" of David's mentality and his goals in the process (albeit, once again, indirectly and not by name).

    I think the third arc of the comic, which will kickstart in issue 13 and is apparently supposed to run for a dozen issues rather than six, is going to delve more into the AI side of things as its primary focus.

    I don't think anything here is explicitly setting up the show (the various parties at Marvel, Titan, and Cold Iron can't even seem to keep things straight among one another), and the on-screen material is always in flux itself, but I wouldn't be shocked if Hawley does plan on delving more into the AI side of things as well based on his quote, perhaps even with a similar lens as to how Ridley explored the Alien as a sort of near-perfect "construct" with direct ties to artificial beings in Covenant.
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    How you know about that comic Info?You wound happen to know if larroca gets kick off as the artist that be a dream come true
  3. seattle24
    If Prometheus had been called 'Alien: Prometheus' would more people have gone to it, or less?  ???

    Less, I think. It's been my perspective less. Alien and Predator has a seen one - seen them all cloud with some of the general public that they'll just dismiss new entries out of hand, especially with later previous entries being bad. But a brand new science fiction movie "Prometheus" with a stellar cast? That's interesting. I knew some co-workers (not followers of internet movie news like we are) that went to check out Prometheus having no clue it was an Alien prequel.

    On the other hand, if it was branded Alien 0 (example), the first proper Alien film in 15 years (97-2012) starring an exciting cast sprinkled with A-list talent, from Ridley Scott no less - that would have done significant business.

    During the 3-D boom too.

    What percent do we think knew this was loosely related to Alien? Musta been 80% odd at least, that went out and bought a ticket still.

    No clue. But Prometheus' relative success is a big reason why I want Dan Trachtenberg's "Skulls" to keep its secret Predator movie marketing plan intact (even though the cat is already out of the bag for those who follow the entertainment industry). A portion of the general audience who might normally dismiss another Alien or Predator film out of hand..."Bah, another Predator movie"... might read the "Skulls" streaming synopsis about Native Americans in pre-colonial times stalked by a creature and decide to check it out, love it, and become a fan where they wouldn't have had an opportunity to with marketing so straightforward.

    Shame the cat is out of the bag with the creature effects for us lot as well  ;D

    In seriousness, I do like the layer of mystique naming the film “Skulls” adds.
  4. Nightmare Asylum
    There something interesting I noticed about alien issue 7 that nobody seems to be talking about  they bring up something called the extinction conlies.Conlies that are controlled by AI.In a interview Noah Hawley talks about how the show is about man primordial past and his AI control future.And it seems this is a recent thing to in the alien timeline so we can guess the show takes place after aliens.

    I know the comic hasn't directly acknowledged Alien: Resurrection, but in that regard it does almost feel like it is setting the stage for the Autons. And riffing on the "legacy" of David's mentality and his goals in the process (albeit, once again, indirectly and not by name).

    I think the third arc of the comic, which will kickstart in issue 13 and is apparently supposed to run for a dozen issues rather than six, is going to delve more into the AI side of things as its primary focus.

    I don't think anything here is explicitly setting up the show (the various parties at Marvel, Titan, and Cold Iron can't even seem to keep things straight among one another), and the on-screen material is always in flux itself, but I wouldn't be shocked if Hawley does plan on delving more into the AI side of things as well based on his quote, perhaps even with a similar lens as to how Ridley explored the Alien as a sort of near-perfect "construct" with direct ties to artificial beings in Covenant.
  5. Voodoo Magic
    If Prometheus had been called 'Alien: Prometheus' would more people have gone to it, or less?  ???

    Less, I think. It's been my perspective less. Alien and Predator has a seen one - seen them all cloud with some of the general public that they'll just dismiss new entries out of hand, especially with later previous entries being bad. But a brand new science fiction movie "Prometheus" with a stellar cast? That's interesting. I knew some co-workers (not followers of internet movie news like we are) that went to check out Prometheus having no clue it was an Alien prequel.

    On the other hand, if it was branded Alien 0 (example), the first proper Alien film in 15 years (97-2012) starring an exciting cast sprinkled with A-list talent, from Ridley Scott no less - that would have done significant business.

    During the 3-D boom too.

    What percent do we think knew this was loosely related to Alien? Musta been 80% odd at least, that went out and bought a ticket still.

    No clue. But Prometheus' relative success is a big reason why I want Dan Trachtenberg's "Skulls" to keep its secret Predator movie marketing plan intact (even though the cat is already out of the bag for those who follow the entertainment industry). A portion of the general audience who might normally dismiss another Alien or Predator film out of hand..."Bah, another Predator movie"... might read the "Skulls" streaming synopsis about Native Americans in pre-colonial times stalked by a creature and decide to check it out, love it, and become a fan where they wouldn't have had an opportunity to with marketing so straightforward.
  6. Bughuntwilson
    There something interesting I noticed about alien issue 7 that nobody seems to be talking about  they bring up something called the extinction conlies.Conlies that are controlled by AI.In a interview Noah Hawley talks about how the show is about man primordial past and his AI control future.And it seems this is a recent thing to in the alien timeline so we can guess the show takes place after aliens.
  7. Kane's other son
    Prometheus was a sci-fi movie with little action, following 20 years of underperforming Alien sequels and spin-offs. Doing over 400 million worldwide was anything but a failure. Not to mention that Ridley's involvement rescued the franchise from DTV hell after the atrocious, cheap AVP-R.

    At that point, however, not calling it "Alien", and claiming that it sets up a whole new universe, was the smart thing to do.
  8. seattle24
    If Prometheus had been called 'Alien: Prometheus' would more people have gone to it, or less?  ???

    Less, I think. It's been my perspective less. Alien and Predator has a seen one - seen them all cloud with some of the general public that they'll just dismiss new entries out of hand, especially with later previous entries being bad. But a brand new science fiction movie "Prometheus" with a stellar cast? That's interesting. I knew some co-workers (not followers of internet movie news like we are) that went to check out Prometheus having no clue it was an Alien prequel.

    On the other hand, if it was branded Alien 0 (example), the first proper Alien film in 15 years (97-2012) starring an exciting cast sprinkled with A-list talent, from Ridley Scott no less - that would have done significant business.

    During the 3-D boom too.

    What percent do we think knew this was loosely related to Alien? Musta been 80% odd at least, that went out and bought a ticket still.
  9. Voodoo Magic
    If Prometheus had been called 'Alien: Prometheus' would more people have gone to it, or less?  ???

    Less, I think. It's been my perspective less. Alien and Predator has a seen one - seen them all cloud with some of the general public that they'll just dismiss new entries out of hand, especially with later previous entries being bad. But a brand new science fiction movie "Prometheus" with a stellar cast? That's interesting. I knew some co-workers (not followers of internet movie news like we are) that went to check out Prometheus having no clue it was an Alien prequel.
  10. Adam802
    Ridley really shouldn't talk after the garbage 'prequels' he made........

    And LOL, it has nothing to do with AvP or Resurrection. The 'prequels' are just plain bad Alien films and ruin the lore and mystery with a contrived world-shrinking explanation.

    The "prequels" are always non-canon to me forever.
  11. seattle24
    Personally, I blame AvP; I think that was the moment when John Q. Public said, "Oh I see, Alien is just Saturday afternoon popcorn bullshit now."

    If Prometheus had been called 'Alien: Prometheus' would more people have gone to it, or less?  ???

    Good question. And I’m not sure. I feel there’s arguments for and against this specific brand recognition.

    And to be fair, Alien Covenant has many flaws of its own in writing and direction to pin it all on Prometheus (like some do here) or the Alien creature (like Ridley did there).

    Yeah, pretty much. Hand on heart I left the IMAX after both films thinking 6/10.

    I don’t think the execution of the Alien itself has really been right since Aliens (I love Alien 3 - but the dodgy vfx is a well-trodden story) - by the time Alien: Covenant rolled around most of us were sighing it’s another missed opportunity. It was generic 101
  12. Evanus
    The poor reception to the AVP films and even Alien3 and Res didn't help much I suspect.

    I don't think they could've done much to make Covenant a success honestly. Some people dipped out after Prometheus and a lot were probably confused about what Covenant even was. I think Blomkamp's Alien 5 could've done well, though. Still glad it never got made lol.
  13. Mr. Clemens
    Personally, I blame AvP; I think that was the moment when John Q. Public said, "Oh I see, Alien is just Saturday afternoon popcorn bullshit now."

    If Prometheus had been called 'Alien: Prometheus' would more people have gone to it, or less?  ???
  14. Mr. Clemens
    He seriously has it in his head that Covenant did poorly because people are bored of the alien.

    Not because people don’t want the alien explained,
    or because his explanation was too bold for most people,
    or because people are nitpicky about helmets,
    or because people are grumpy that Shaw got Newted,
    or because the movie came out during summer in between Wonder Woman and Pirates 5.

    No, it must be because the stupid studio made him include the greatest movie monster of all time. Sure.

    None of these points (except maybe the last one) were known to the people who didn't buy a ticket to the movie. They just simply couldn't be arsed in the first place. If all the people who went to the movie and had these complaints had demanded their money back, then you'd be onto something.

    As much as I love Alien3, I'll be the first to admit that there hasn't been a truly, all around crowd-pleasing Alien movie for 35 years. Much like Jaws, people do eventually get tired of perpetually inferior sequels.
  15. Kradan
    Just regard Prometheus & Covenant as stories taking place in another dark corner of the Alien universe, instead of prequels.
    David is somewhere out there, creating his version of the Alien and ruling his little biomechanical kingdom, with no ties to LV-426 and the Nostromo.

    My thoughts exactly. Main issue I have with prequels is that they inevitably would have to link back to the original movie and I for the life of me can't think of a satisfying way to do that. I wish they would just abandon whole "prequel" aspect and continue it from Covenant as it's own story without connecting it to 1979 Alien
  16. Kane's other son
    I still want closure and I want the prequels to stay canon, but this pisses me off.

    Take it away from him.

    Casually establish that the aliens existed before David, have a flashback or some ancillary material hint at how he met his destruction, then move on to new things.

    Just regard Prometheus & Covenant as stories taking place in another dark corner of the Alien universe, instead of prequels.
    David is somewhere out there, creating his version of the Alien and ruling his little biomechanical kingdom, with no ties to LV-426 and the Nostromo.
  17. seattle24
    Ridley is 83 years old. He has no desire to be diplomatic.
    What's interesting is that he pretty much confirms that Fox torpedoed his ideas for Prometheus 2 and made him include the aliens. They treated Prometheus as a failure and it backfired spectacularly.

    To be fair he’s spoken like this for a while. I remember he had quite an explicit dig at having to put the Alien back in during a Hollywood round table interview that included Seth Rogen.

    Right up Scott's street?

    Oh, yeah. From what we've seen so far, it certainly is.

    Just awaiting something back before we share this to the front page, but honestly I just think this is a little tongue in cheek.

    Obviously I know nothing but the feelers I’m getting is this might be like Prometheus and start life as an Alien project before evolving into something with tangible links, only. Here we go again  ;D
  18. Evanus
    Boy does it suck being a fan of Prometheus and Covenant.

    Anyway if we never see David again that would be the biggest waste of a character ever.

    Because I like David/Walter, I disagree. I don't want him to be killed off-screen for some stupidity. Or that the new film again had an open end. Or it became the beginning of a new trilogy. Again. Just keep David as an eternal cosmic threat, which hiding among the stars.

    I still remember the plans about Prometheus saga - it will be a trilogy.
    And the people who thought and still think that the Covenant is the second film are wrong.
    Because during Covenant's filming, marketing, releasing  there were a Ridley's words that the Prometheus was a mistake and the Covenant is a new start of a new trilogy. Not a Prometheus trilogy, but a Covenant trilogy.
    Also, he said that he could make two, three or even six more films as a prequels.

    P.S. iirc in 2019/2020 I've read that Covenant goes wrong and he want to make another film, which will be a start for a new trilogy. Semi-clear start. Again.
    Oh I want a lot more David, he's been the highlight of these films for me. Not doing anything with the character now would be a waste IMO.

    I think Scott's plan was to just keep cranking out more films if the previous one did well. Then Covenant underperformed and the studio probably lost interest. I'm glad they're using elements from the prequels in new stuff though.

    Right up Scott's street?

    Oh, yeah. From what we've seen so far, it certainly is.

    Just awaiting something back before we share this to the front page, but honestly I just think this is a little tongue in cheek.
    Pls tell me this means there's an army of Michael Fassbenders in it
  19. Kane's other son
    Ridley is 83 years old. He has no desire to be diplomatic.
    What's interesting is that he pretty much confirms that Fox torpedoed his ideas for Prometheus 2 and made him include the aliens. They treated Prometheus as a failure and it backfired spectacularly.
  20. Drukathi
    Boy does it suck being a fan of Prometheus and Covenant.

    Anyway if we never see David again that would be the biggest waste of a character ever.

    Because I like David/Walter, I disagree. I don't want him to be killed off-screen for some stupidity. Or that the new film again had an open end. Or it became the beginning of a new trilogy. Again. Just keep David as an eternal cosmic threat, which hiding among the stars.

    I still remember the plans about Prometheus saga - it will be a trilogy.
    And the people who thought and still think that the Covenant is the second film are wrong.
    Because during Covenant's filming, marketing, releasing  there were a Ridley's words that the Prometheus was a mistake and the Covenant is a new start of a new trilogy. Not a Prometheus trilogy, but a Covenant trilogy.
    Also, he said that he could make two, three or even six more films as a prequels.

    P.S. iirc in 2019/2020 I've read that Covenant goes wrong and he want to make another film, which will be a start for a new trilogy. Semi-clear start. Again.
  21. Kradan
    Reminder that Ridley Scott's list of top 5 sci-fi movies includes both Alien and Blade Runner. :D



    "Then I'd do ... Alienbladerunner. Hehehe, I'm not gonna be modest about that"


    Man has quite an ego. Can't really say he didn't earn it though  :D

    give the 3rd David film to.. Villeneuve.  :laugh:

    (then Ridley would truly die of a salt overdose)
    He didn't like blade runner 2048?

    He said it was too long or something
  22. Drukathi
    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/features/ridley-scott-interview-last-duel-b1936054.html%3famp

    “ He refuses point blank to tell me anything about Gladiator 2 – “No! No!” he cries– but he’s more vocal about the Alien franchise, which he resurrected with 2012’s origin story Prometheus. “I never showed an alien in it” – it still made $404 million at the box office – “and the studio … said, ‘See, it didn’t do so well!’ Really?” He returned with 2017’s Alien: Covenant, “put the aliens back in there”, and the film made much less: $240m worldwide. “When you’ve got a marvellous beast, it does wear out and you have to actually think again.”

    Umm... Mr. Scott, I think that the beast is not the cause of lower box-office...


    “ The franchise is now being rebooted as a TV series by Noah Hawley (who successfully turned Fargo into a long-running show). Wherever they go, whatever they do, “It’ll never be as good as the first one,” he grins. “That’s what I’ll say.”

    Doesn’t sound like he’s involved with the TV series to me….

    Yeah. It looks like he didn't  get his piece of cake. But hey - he kept the franchise around 10 years. The fresh blood is extremely necessary.

  23. Nightmare Asylum
    I'm still down for one last outing of Old Man Ridley doing whatever odd thing comes to mind, myself. If it's good, awesome! If it's not, odds are it'll still at minimum be interesting.

    And someone else is inevitably gonna come around afterwards and recontextualize it all anyways, has always happens from installment to installment in this series.
  24. Kimarhi
    And yet it would seem he thinks so.  He goes around peeing in the yard that other dogs have stood in. 


    I've been tired of him since Prometheus was an absolute trainwreck, I'm glad everybody else is catching up and maybe with enough negative fan reaction he can be removed from future projects. 

    I dont even think his other scifi is bad.  I enjoyed the Martian, and what little I've seen so far out of Raised by Wolves was interesting, I'm just tired of him in THIS franchise.   
  25. Bughuntwilson
    Prometheus is just a dumb movie that burned people out of giving any time of day to Covenant.

    Saw both films in theaters and both times the audience laughed at all the stupid shit.

    Anyone else get the feeling that Ridley really truly hates that people tend to prefer Cameron's film to his?
    Ridley probably also hates the idea of anyone else playing in "his" sandbox and having more critical success than his other current films (a la Villeneuve and BR2049, i bet Ridley regrets giving that film to Denis..)

    It really does seem like he didn't want people in his sandbox which is strange because he really didn't create alien Dan obann did
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