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Michael Bishop to Return in Aliens: Bishop, A New Titan Novel On The Way!

A listing for a new Aliens novel has appeared on Amazon. Titan’s next Aliens novel, titled Aliens: Bishop, is on the way in October. Written by T.R Napper, Aliens: Bishop will, as the title suggests, focus on the titular artificial person from Aliens, as well as his creator Michael Bishop. Check out the synopsis below:

A direct sequel to Aliens and Alien 3―Weyland-Yutani, the Colonial Marines, and Bishop’s creator all pursue the android for the deadly Xenomorph data contained in his brain. Written by T. R. Napper, author of the acclaimed 36 Streets, whose explosive work explores the artificial intelligence and what it is to be human.

Massively damaged in Aliens and Alien3, the synthetic Bishop asked to be shut down forever. His creator, Michael Bishop, has other plans. He seeks the Xenomorph knowledge stored in the android’s mind, and brings Bishop back to life―but for what reason? No longer an employee of the Weyland-Yutani Corporation, Michael tells his creation that he seeks to advance medical research for the benefit of humanity. Yet where does he get the resources needed to advance his work. With whom do his new allegiances lie?

Bishop is pursued by Colonial Marines Captain Marcel Apone, commander of the Il Conde and younger brother of Master Sergeant Alexander Apone, one of the casualties of the doomed mission to LV-426. Also on his trail are the “Dog Catchers,” commandos employed by Weyland-Yutani.

Who else might benefit from Bishop’s intimate knowledge of the deadliest creatures in the galaxy?

 Michael Bishop to Return in Aliens: Bishop, A New Titan Novel On The Way!

While Aliens: Bishop is T.R Napper’s Alien franchise debut, he’s an award-winning author responsible for Neon Leviathan and 36 Streets. Aliens: Bishop is currently slated for release on October 24th. Thanks to Felix for the link.

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  1. Xenomrph
    The thing to keep in mind is that the "acid blood" doesn't follow any real logic or scientific consistency - it does exactly as much damage as the story's plot needs it to do in that particular instance, no matter what material it's encountering.

    The final chapter in the Colonial Marines Technical Manual even lampshades this - they try to figure out what the acid blood is and end up concluding that it doesn't make any sense, although I think the closest to a consensus they come to on it is that it's maybe some kind of hydrofluoric acid. They do theorize that Teflon might be able to stop it, though.
  2. VeteranSergeant
    Quote from: Engineer on Apr 30, 2023, 04:14:22 PMTbh I'm expecting a reboot of the EU at some point in the near future. Disney did it with Star Wars
    Disney actually cares about the profitability of Star Wars and Star Wars fans are obsessive about the franchise.  Aliens was nothing more than a licensable movie monster to Fox, and it's probably no more important to Disney.  They didn't care about the RPG (Gaska was just allowed to use his head canon) and they certainly don't care about continuity since we know that Hawley's TV series is yet another canon-muddling prequel set in the early 2100s.

    There's no Alien canon, in any traditional sense of that word.


    QuoteAs I've said - "for a layman like me". How many viewers actually thought about whether or not acidic blood makes sense ? O'Bannon himself probably didn't

    I'm no biologist but I don't think that stomach acid is as potent as Xeno's blood is shown to be. Probably cause it's supposed to digest food not melt spaceship decks. Also, we don't have acid running in our veins. Probably for a reason too

    If whatever the Alien's body chemistry is, is non-reactive with that type of acid, then it would be fine.  For example, fluoropolymers like Teflon are non-reactive to many acids, which is why Teflon is a preferred storage material for them. Our insides have evolved to contain and resist stomach acid because it is sufficient for our digestive uses, most of which is breaking down plant and animal matter.

    I mean, it's still a little bit implausible that a highly corrosive hydro-fluorine compound with some kind of accelerant would end up as a body fluid, but then again, if the Alien is truly a genetically engineered bioweapon from an advanced species, it might not be beyond possibility to have engineered them that way.
  3. [cancerblack]
    Quote from: Immortan Jonesy on May 02, 2023, 06:59:44 PM
    Quote from: Engineer on May 02, 2023, 04:15:32 AMI dunno
    But I can say that THAT is more fictitious than the entire alien franchise itself lol

    Maybe ChatGPT knows something about the egg in the Sulaco, or what happened to David and the Covenant.




    Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 02, 2023, 06:52:16 PMAnother idea I've seen floated is that the acid isn't blood but a different fluid entirely that's stored in a separate layer beneath the exoskeleton for defensive purposes.

    That arguably makes more biological sense (there are animals that can secrete all kinds of noxious chemicals for defence) but I personally like the battery-acid-for-blood concept more.

    Maybe it's like THC

    https://i.ibb.co/m5dCVSc/Screenshot-20230502-145620-Chrome.jpg

    https://i.gyazo.com/40039e24ea4f78f355d642cbb114af91.png

    (X) Doubt

    At least around here...
  4. Sarahlyn35
    Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 02, 2023, 07:08:48 PM
    Quote from: Sarahlyn35 on May 02, 2023, 07:01:07 PMI mean.. it sounds WAY cooler!

    The living battery concept also ties in to the idea they're engineered rather than naturally-occurring creatures, and as much as I hate the way that was presented in Covenant, as a concept it's one I've always really liked.

    I just strongly disagree with Ridley that we needed it spelt out for us ;D
    I could deal with it being engineered rather than natural evolution, it even makes more sense probably. But... by an android created by man? Snoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooore!
  5. Sarahlyn35
    Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 02, 2023, 06:52:16 PMAnother idea I've seen floated is that the acid isn't blood but a different fluid entirely that's stored in a separate layer beneath the exoskeleton for defensive purposes.

    That arguably makes more biological sense (there are animals that can secrete all kinds of noxious chemicals for defence) but I personally like the battery-acid-for-blood concept more.

    I mean.. it sounds WAY cooler!
  6. Immortan Jonesy
    Quote from: Engineer on May 02, 2023, 04:15:32 AMI dunno
    But I can say that THAT is more fictitious than the entire alien franchise itself lol

    Maybe ChatGPT knows something about the egg in the Sulaco, or what happened to David and the Covenant.




    Quote from: HuDaFuK on May 02, 2023, 06:52:16 PMAnother idea I've seen floated is that the acid isn't blood but a different fluid entirely that's stored in a separate layer beneath the exoskeleton for defensive purposes.

    That arguably makes more biological sense (there are animals that can secrete all kinds of noxious chemicals for defence) but I personally like the battery-acid-for-blood concept more.

    Maybe it's like THC

    https://i.ibb.co/m5dCVSc/Screenshot-20230502-145620-Chrome.jpg
  7. HuDaFuK
    Another idea I've seen floated is that the acid isn't blood but a different fluid entirely that's stored in a separate layer beneath the exoskeleton for defensive purposes.

    That arguably makes more biological sense (there are animals that can secrete all kinds of noxious chemicals for defence) but I personally like the battery-acid-for-blood concept more.
  8. Engineer
    Quote from: Sarahlyn35 on May 02, 2023, 06:21:31 PM
    Quote from: Engineer on Apr 27, 2023, 11:03:08 AM
    Quote from: Kradan on Apr 27, 2023, 10:15:24 AMFor a layman like me, it as nonsensical as a creature having acidic blood

    Acid blood isn't nonsensical at all. Lots of bodily fluids are acidic, like the hydrochloric acid in our stomachs we use to digest food.

    Plus bishop does mention it oxidizes when exposed to air, so it may be non-corrosive until it bleeds.

    Assuming it's acidic all the time though... hudafuk just said exactly the same thing I would have. Acids are great at transferring energy, hence why batteries have acids in them. It's essentially a living battery and in my head canon, the reason it can live so long without sustenance; it's very efficient at using the energy its body has stored up.

    I was thinking the same thing. In Vasquez they use the term "acidic" as opposed to acid blood which only indicates a PH below 7. Different acids with PH below 3 can be stored safely.. sulphuric acid will not melt lead but it will burn your skin, hydrofluoric acid can be stored in plastic, fluorine can be kept in copper.

    I'm not sure what the Nostromo hull was built of, and whether this would give an indication of what the properties is closest to.

    Also.. is it really blood? Maybe not in our sense of the word? If the purpose of blood is to move oxygen around the body and it doesn't need oxygen.. or doesn't have organs.. then it isn't really blood.

    In my weird Google searches of the day there are 8 animals that don't have a heart (that we know of) so it's entirely possible its purpose is nothing more than a defence mechanism like toads with toxins in their skin.

    I looked through David's Drawings and can't see a cross section of the finished creature. Maybe someone here knows if one exists?

    I think there's a diagram of anatomy in the Weyland Yutani report. It doesn't show them having a heart, but they do have "aortic arches" whatever that is lol
    Nah, I wouldn't think their blood functions the same way as human blood (I.e., transferring oxygen around the body), but I still believe it functions similarly by transferring energy around its body, which to be clear, I admit is my own head canon. That can change in a heartbeat (pun intended) with any new release that comes out and chooses to address this stuff...
  9. Sarahlyn35
    Quote from: Engineer on Apr 27, 2023, 11:03:08 AM
    Quote from: Kradan on Apr 27, 2023, 10:15:24 AMFor a layman like me, it as nonsensical as a creature having acidic blood

    Acid blood isn't nonsensical at all. Lots of bodily fluids are acidic, like the hydrochloric acid in our stomachs we use to digest food.

    Plus bishop does mention it oxidizes when exposed to air, so it may be non-corrosive until it bleeds.

    Assuming it's acidic all the time though... hudafuk just said exactly the same thing I would have. Acids are great at transferring energy, hence why batteries have acids in them. It's essentially a living battery and in my head canon, the reason it can live so long without sustenance; it's very efficient at using the energy its body has stored up.

    I was thinking the same thing. In Vasquez they use the term "acidic" as opposed to acid blood which only indicates a PH below 7. Different acids with PH below 3 can be stored safely.. sulphuric acid will not melt lead but it will burn your skin, hydrofluoric acid can be stored in plastic, fluorine can be kept in copper.

    I'm not sure what the Nostromo hull was built of, and whether this would give an indication of what the properties is closest to.

    Also.. is it really blood? Maybe not in our sense of the word? If the purpose of blood is to move oxygen around the body and it doesn't need oxygen.. or doesn't have organs.. then it isn't really blood.

    In my weird Google searches of the day there are 8 animals that don't have a heart (that we know of) so it's entirely possible its purpose is nothing more than a defence mechanism like toads with toxins in their skin.

    I looked through David's Drawings and can't see a cross section of the finished creature. Maybe someone here knows if one exists?
  10. HuDaFuK
    Quote from: Local Trouble on May 02, 2023, 03:25:35 AMDear Xenomrph,

    I hope this message finds you well! I know you have a keen interest in sci-fi and comics, so I wanted to share something with you that I believe you'll absolutely love - Marvel Comics' Alien series.

    Given your username, it's clear you're a fan of the Alien franchise. Marvel's take on the iconic universe is a must-read for any fan, and here's why:

    • Captivating Storyline: Marvel's Alien series offers a fresh, yet faithful, exploration of the Alien universe. The storyline is well-crafted and packed with suspense, providing a thrilling reading experience. You'll follow new characters as they navigate the terrifying world of Xenomorphs while uncovering the dark secrets of the Weyland-Yutani Corporation.
    • Exceptional Artwork: Marvel's Alien series boasts some truly stunning artwork. The illustrations are vivid and detailed, perfectly capturing the eerie atmosphere and bone-chilling encounters with the Xenomorphs. The visual storytelling is top-notch, and you'll find yourself fully immersed in the world that the artists have brought to life.
    • Expanded Universe: One of the most exciting aspects of Marvel's Alien series is the opportunity for further exploration of the franchise's rich universe. The series delves into new territories, introducing fresh storylines and characters that will keep you hooked from issue to issue.
    • Perfect for New and Old Fans: Whether you're a die-hard fan of the Alien franchise or a newcomer to the world of Xenomorphs, Marvel's Alien series has something for everyone. The series pays homage to the original films while offering new perspectives and stories that will keep you on the edge of your seat.

    I highly recommend giving Marvel's Alien series a chance. It's a thrilling and captivating experience that will make you feel like you're discovering the Alien universe for the first time all over again. Head to your local comic book store or look for digital issues online to start your journey with this fantastic series.

    Happy reading, and I hope you enjoy Marvel's Alien series as much as I have!

    Best regards,

    [Your Name]

    If we ever start doing community awards on this forum, I hope you get Shit-Stirrer in-Chief :D
  11. Kradan
    Quote from: Local Trouble on May 02, 2023, 03:25:35 AM
    Quote from: Xenomrph on May 02, 2023, 03:00:59 AMOh yeah I haven't read any of the Marvel Aliens stuff (and I'm not convinced I want to).

    Dear Xenomrph,

    I hope this message finds you well! I know you have a keen interest in sci-fi and comics, so I wanted to share something with you that I believe you'll absolutely love - Marvel Comics' Alien series.

    Given your username, it's clear you're a fan of the Alien franchise. Marvel's take on the iconic universe is a must-read for any fan, and here's why:

    • Captivating Storyline: Marvel's Alien series offers a fresh, yet faithful, exploration of the Alien universe. The storyline is well-crafted and packed with suspense, providing a thrilling reading experience. You'll follow new characters as they navigate the terrifying world of Xenomorphs while uncovering the dark secrets of the Weyland-Yutani Corporation.
    • Exceptional Artwork: Marvel's Alien series boasts some truly stunning artwork. The illustrations are vivid and detailed, perfectly capturing the eerie atmosphere and bone-chilling encounters with the Xenomorphs. The visual storytelling is top-notch, and you'll find yourself fully immersed in the world that the artists have brought to life.
    • Expanded Universe: One of the most exciting aspects of Marvel's Alien series is the opportunity for further exploration of the franchise's rich universe. The series delves into new territories, introducing fresh storylines and characters that will keep you hooked from issue to issue.
    • Perfect for New and Old Fans: Whether you're a die-hard fan of the Alien franchise or a newcomer to the world of Xenomorphs, Marvel's Alien series has something for everyone. The series pays homage to the original films while offering new perspectives and stories that will keep you on the edge of your seat.

    I highly recommend giving Marvel's Alien series a chance. It's a thrilling and captivating experience that will make you feel like you're discovering the Alien universe for the first time all over again. Head to your local comic book store or look for digital issues online to start your journey with this fantastic series.

    Happy reading, and I hope you enjoy Marvel's Alien series as much as I have!

    Best regards,

    [Your Name]

    I mean, just for the amount of effort this deserves a like
  12. Xenomrph
    Quote from: Local Trouble on May 02, 2023, 03:25:35 AM
    Quote from: Xenomrph on May 02, 2023, 03:00:59 AMOh yeah I haven't read any of the Marvel Aliens stuff (and I'm not convinced I want to).

    Dear Xenomrph,

    I hope this message finds you well! I know you have a keen interest in sci-fi and comics, so I wanted to share something with you that I believe you'll absolutely love - Marvel Comics' Alien series.

    Given your username, it's clear you're a fan of the Alien franchise. Marvel's take on the iconic universe is a must-read for any fan, and here's why:

    • Captivating Storyline: Marvel's Alien series offers a fresh, yet faithful, exploration of the Alien universe. The storyline is well-crafted and packed with suspense, providing a thrilling reading experience. You'll follow new characters as they navigate the terrifying world of Xenomorphs while uncovering the dark secrets of the Weyland-Yutani Corporation.
    • Exceptional Artwork: Marvel's Alien series boasts some truly stunning artwork. The illustrations are vivid and detailed, perfectly capturing the eerie atmosphere and bone-chilling encounters with the Xenomorphs. The visual storytelling is top-notch, and you'll find yourself fully immersed in the world that the artists have brought to life.
    • Expanded Universe: One of the most exciting aspects of Marvel's Alien series is the opportunity for further exploration of the franchise's rich universe. The series delves into new territories, introducing fresh storylines and characters that will keep you hooked from issue to issue.
    • Perfect for New and Old Fans: Whether you're a die-hard fan of the Alien franchise or a newcomer to the world of Xenomorphs, Marvel's Alien series has something for everyone. The series pays homage to the original films while offering new perspectives and stories that will keep you on the edge of your seat.

    I highly recommend giving Marvel's Alien series a chance. It's a thrilling and captivating experience that will make you feel like you're discovering the Alien universe for the first time all over again. Head to your local comic book store or look for digital issues online to start your journey with this fantastic series.

    Happy reading, and I hope you enjoy Marvel's Alien series as much as I have!

    Best regards,

    [Your Name]
    Is that an actual form letter that got sent out to people? lol
  13. Local Trouble
    Quote from: Xenomrph on May 02, 2023, 03:00:59 AMOh yeah I haven't read any of the Marvel Aliens stuff (and I'm not convinced I want to).

    Dear Xenomrph,

    I hope this message finds you well! I know you have a keen interest in sci-fi and comics, so I wanted to share something with you that I believe you'll absolutely love - Marvel Comics' Alien series.

    Given your username, it's clear you're a fan of the Alien franchise. Marvel's take on the iconic universe is a must-read for any fan, and here's why:

    • Captivating Storyline: Marvel's Alien series offers a fresh, yet faithful, exploration of the Alien universe. The storyline is well-crafted and packed with suspense, providing a thrilling reading experience. You'll follow new characters as they navigate the terrifying world of Xenomorphs while uncovering the dark secrets of the Weyland-Yutani Corporation.
    • Exceptional Artwork: Marvel's Alien series boasts some truly stunning artwork. The illustrations are vivid and detailed, perfectly capturing the eerie atmosphere and bone-chilling encounters with the Xenomorphs. The visual storytelling is top-notch, and you'll find yourself fully immersed in the world that the artists have brought to life.
    • Expanded Universe: One of the most exciting aspects of Marvel's Alien series is the opportunity for further exploration of the franchise's rich universe. The series delves into new territories, introducing fresh storylines and characters that will keep you hooked from issue to issue.
    • Perfect for New and Old Fans: Whether you're a die-hard fan of the Alien franchise or a newcomer to the world of Xenomorphs, Marvel's Alien series has something for everyone. The series pays homage to the original films while offering new perspectives and stories that will keep you on the edge of your seat.

    I highly recommend giving Marvel's Alien series a chance. It's a thrilling and captivating experience that will make you feel like you're discovering the Alien universe for the first time all over again. Head to your local comic book store or look for digital issues online to start your journey with this fantastic series.

    Happy reading, and I hope you enjoy Marvel's Alien series as much as I have!

    Best regards,

    [Your Name]
  14. Xenomrph
    Quote from: Engineer on Apr 30, 2023, 09:18:25 PMFrom what I understand, the reason Disney did a hard reboot of the Star Wars EU was so they could have a fresh start and manage that EU much better. Tbh I think they have managed it better; not perfectly but better. Maybe Alien will be managed better from a coherence standpoint but so far the direction they've taken is total garbage and it's not doing them any favors keeping all the stuff PKJ wrote imo.
    Disney rebooted Star Wars because there was decades of existing lore spanning novels, cartoons, comics, video games, audio books, action figures, reference books, RPGs, and of course movies. It was all pretty tightly knit and even had a dedicated guy (Leland Chee) to catalogue all of it and make sure it all fit together (reasonably) well.
    It got rebooted because it gave Disney the freedom to do whatever they wanted with the sequel trilogy without being hamstrung by 30 years of "lore".

    As for keeping the new EU straight... some of it is, some of it is nonsensical, some of it sucks, and tons of stuff is lifted wholesale from the old EU anyway and shoehorned into the "new" framework. And that doesn't even touch on the sequel trilogy, its questionable quality, and its narrative ramifications for the Star Wars "franchise" as a whole.

    Who is PKJ?
  15. [cancerblack]
    No, there's a known phenomena where things from when you were 10-13 stick with you more than novel materials, regardless of the quality of either. And that does often intersect with more rational opinions once you get into your late 20's and only gets worse, so she's not entirely off-base here.
  16. BlueMarsalis79
    I honestly think that's just old man syndrome. Monolith's AVP has no more "soul' to me than Phalanx, Into Charybdis or even Dead Orbit less actually, as they all are more deeply considered works of art.

    Alien Isolation to me I think in terms of the videogames has the most "soul" but I would say pathos, especially in the atmosphere and score, and how it takes the time to give things weight.




  17. Kimarhi
    I figured the lack of coherence was always just an EU thing.  I've always considered its own spinoff so the way it is currently doesn't really bother me. 

    I don't know what the word I'm looking for is, but the old EU, going by my standards, seems to have more spirit or soul in it, despite its flaws or at times never even really feeling like the franchise it represents.

    I maintain that AvP2 to me feels more like Jurassic Park for some reason, with all the callbacks and tropes of the Alien and Predator series.  Despite that, it has a certain spirit to it that some of what I'm reading or playing nowadays does not.  Todays stuff sometimes reads and plays like something that an AI thought up.  Or that some dude ran through a computer to process a story and then ran from there. 

  18. Engineer
    Quote from: HuDaFuK on Apr 30, 2023, 08:32:40 PMDoes it even matter? Even with the more connected angle Fox went for from Out of the Shadows onwards, I still feel like there's not been an awful lot of coherence in the EU.
    I agree with that; that's always been the one thing about the EU that's been consistent... lack of coherence and constant reboots with each new film starting with Alien3.
     
    From what I understand, the reason Disney did a hard reboot of the Star Wars EU was so they could have a fresh start and manage that EU much better. Tbh I think they have managed it better; not perfectly but better. Maybe Alien will be managed better from a coherence standpoint but so far the direction they've taken is total garbage and it's not doing them any favors keeping all the stuff PKJ wrote imo.
  19. HuDaFuK
    Does it even matter? Even with the more connected angle Fox went for from Out of the Shadows onwards, I still feel like there's not been an awful lot of coherence in the EU.
  20. Engineer
    Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Apr 30, 2023, 12:51:53 PMOld EU is anything prior to Titan. In-house at Fox there was a soft reset of anything prior.

    How it's looking to shape up after the merger...Marvel is doing its own thing. Titan seems to still be sticking to the the state of the EU they had with Dark Horse.

    Tbh I'm expecting a reboot of the EU at some point in the near future. Disney did it with Star Wars then started to reuse/reintroduce characters/concepts from that old star wars EU back in. The only thing that really surprises me so far is that with Star Wars they did that reboot very abruptly to much backlash, while with alien they've continued to let Titan,  fireteam elite and the free league rpg do their thing without interruption. I'm still trying to figure out if that's them waiting to do that reboot because they learned their lesson about abrupt reboots from Star Wars, or if they're still trying to figure out what they want to do with the alien franchise and letting this stuff continue while they do...
  21. Corporal Hicks
    Old EU is anything prior to Titan. In-house at Fox there was a soft reset of anything prior.

    How it's looking to shape up after the merger...Marvel is doing its own thing. Titan seems to still be sticking to the the state of the EU they had with Dark Horse.
  22. BlueMarsalis79
    To me: Old EU, everything before Alien Isolation, New EU, everything after Alien Isolation.

    (I might say Prometheus in 2012, but ACM came out in 2013 and it is pretty definitively not part of current proceedings, The Weyland Yutani Report in 2014 made that fairly obvious.)

    Because to be clear, in the past decade since the Weyland Yutani Report and with Alien The RPG, a more concerted effort by Dark Horse and Titan had their version of the universe more neatly woven together.

    The Marvel stuff to one side, it is my understanding, that canon and continuity continues today, or am I mistaken?
  23. Kimarhi
    Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Apr 24, 2023, 02:39:42 PMStill waaay worse than anything the "new EU" has given us yet.

    I prefer the old EU so far.  And I'm personally defining the old EU as anything before the Disney acquisition, especially the darkhorse to marvel changeover.

    The Marvel stories are bland and soulless entries.  Even though I've only been getting them as TPB so I can't speak for the last series as it is not available yet.  I expect that I will like it better just given the synopsis, but can't say for sure. 

    Technically TCF was an old EU book by that standard, but I do think that Into Charybdis is the singular best novel in the Alien universe.  So the new EU scores a win here for me, BUT it is based as a continuation off a story in the old EU.  It captures the feel of the first two movies, flips some common plot points around (that have still been done before in the old EU), and has a more serious and somber tone that is missing from a HUGE portion of the EU. 

    I also think that A:FTE also captures the feel of the old EU, but it isn't polished enough to win me over against games like the OG AvP or AvP2 or even Isolation, which despite being no fun to play is a great example of the Alien universe made interactive in just its presentation and worldbuilding.  It might be the most immersive Alien game ever made. 

    New EU is still in its infancy, and is pumping out media like it aint no thing, so surely it will have some hits, but I grew up in that magic time where the series had unlimited potential and you could see threads of it in the stories of the old EU.  So far I'm seeing retread of old stories in most of the new EU, and some attempted fanbaiting with all the links to the old alien stories........instead of new ideas.  It is kind of a shame that FTE released without more polish, because it had potential that wasn't fully realized.  Especially since it wasn't beholden to previous locations or characters. 




     
  24. Sabres21768
    Quote from: SiL on Apr 28, 2023, 09:54:25 PM
    Quote from: Xenomorphine on Apr 28, 2023, 05:11:28 PM
    Quote from: Wweyland on Apr 24, 2023, 10:23:38 AMIt feels as bad as the "Somehow, the LV-426 Colony survived" trope we have had multiple times already.

    Wait until some future story has a ship coming across the fully intact hull of the Nostromo, complete with atmosphere and a functional decapitated Ash aboard it.

    You know it's coming.
    There was a fan made online choose-your-own adventure that did this many moons ago.

    Link?
  25. Corporal Hicks
    Quote from: SiL on Apr 28, 2023, 09:54:25 PM
    Quote from: Xenomorphine on Apr 28, 2023, 05:11:28 PM
    Quote from: Wweyland on Apr 24, 2023, 10:23:38 AMIt feels as bad as the "Somehow, the LV-426 Colony survived" trope we have had multiple times already.

    Wait until some future story has a ship coming across the fully intact hull of the Nostromo, complete with atmosphere and a functional decapitated Ash aboard it.

    You know it's coming.
    There was a fan made online choose-your-own adventure that did this many moons ago.

    And it was fun. Nostromo retcon aside.
  26. SiL
    Quote from: Xenomorphine on Apr 28, 2023, 05:11:28 PM
    Quote from: Wweyland on Apr 24, 2023, 10:23:38 AMIt feels as bad as the "Somehow, the LV-426 Colony survived" trope we have had multiple times already.

    Wait until some future story has a ship coming across the fully intact hull of the Nostromo, complete with atmosphere and a functional decapitated Ash aboard it.

    You know it's coming.
    There was a fan made online choose-your-own adventure that did this many moons ago.
  27. Kradan
    Quote from: SiL on Apr 27, 2023, 08:08:20 PMWhat kind of explanation is reasonable for something suddenly having liquid nitrogen for blood?

    Hmmm, idk tbh. Maybe some genetic manipulation ? Bizzare evolutionary tangent ? A mutation ? Aliens developing different defense mechanisms over generations ? Perhaps Aliens born on Mustafar would need something like this ?

    Truth be told, I haven't read the comic. Was there any explanation given at all ? I assumed not
  28. Kradan
    Quote from: SiL on Apr 27, 2023, 12:18:57 PMSomething that bleeds acid suddenly bleeding liquid nitrogen is nonsensical.

    Hence why I wrote

    quote author=Kradan link=msg=2600502 date=1682571621]
    if they bothered to give it a reasonable explanation
    [/quote]

    Quote from: Engineer on Apr 27, 2023, 12:33:51 PMYea our veins can't handle acidity. But the point behind mentioning stomach acid was that it's not unheard of to have bodily fluids that are acidic or living tissues that are capable of withstanding the acidity.

    Our stomach acid is pretty damn strong though. pH of 1 to 2. The difference isn't just in the strength but in the chemistry. Some materials are more resistant to some acids than others. Hydrofluoric acid for example will eat through bone but not certain plastics (if you watched Breaking Bad, that's what the bathtub scene was showing). So the alien's blood eating through a ship deck is just as much about the chemistry involved, and what it's reactive with, as it is the strength. For all we know, it's at a pH of 1 to 2 also, and just very highly reactive with the metals used to make space ships.

    You're right that Dan obannon more than likely didn't put that much thought into it. But regardless, acids in living organisms, including strong acids, is not uncommon.

    Liquid nitrogen on the other hand... personally I find it bothersome and ridiculous.

    Fair enough
  29. Engineer
    Quote from: Kradan on Apr 27, 2023, 11:55:02 AMAs I've said - "for a layman like me". How many viewers actually thought about whether or not acidic blood makes sense ? O'Bannon himself probably didn't

    I'm no biologist but I don't think that stomach acid is as potent as Xeno's blood is shown to be. Probably cause it's supposed to digest food not melt spaceship decks. Also, we don't have acid running in our veins. Probably for a reason too

    Yea our veins can't handle acidity. But the point behind mentioning stomach acid was that it's not unheard of to have bodily fluids that are acidic or living tissues that are capable of withstanding the acidity.

    Our stomach acid is pretty damn strong though. pH of 1 to 2. The difference isn't just in the strength but in the chemistry. Some materials are more resistant to some acids than others. Hydrofluoric acid for example will eat through bone but not certain plastics (if you watched Breaking Bad, that's what the bathtub scene was showing). So the alien's blood eating through a ship deck is just as much about the chemistry involved, and what it's reactive with, as it is the strength. For all we know, it's at a pH of 1 to 2 also, and just very highly reactive with the metals used to make space ships.

    You're right that Dan obannon more than likely didn't put that much thought into it. But regardless, acids in living organisms, including strong acids, is not uncommon.

    Liquid nitrogen on the other hand... personally I find it bothersome and ridiculous.
  30. Kradan
    As I've said - "for a layman like me". How many viewers actually thought about whether or not acidic blood makes sense ? O'Bannon himself probably didn't

    I'm no biologist but I don't think that stomach acid is as potent as Xeno's blood is shown to be. Probably cause it's supposed to digest food not melt spaceship decks. Also, we don't have acid running in our veins. Probably for a reason too


  31. Engineer
    Quote from: Kradan on Apr 27, 2023, 10:15:24 AMFor a layman like me, it as nonsensical as a creature having acidic blood

    Acid blood isn't nonsensical at all. Lots of bodily fluids are acidic, like the hydrochloric acid in our stomachs we use to digest food.

    Plus bishop does mention it oxidizes when exposed to air, so it may be non-corrosive until it bleeds.

    Assuming it's acidic all the time though... hudafuk just said exactly the same thing I would have. Acids are great at transferring energy, hence why batteries have acids in them. It's essentially a living battery and in my head canon, the reason it can live so long without sustenance; it's very efficient at using the energy its body has stored up.
  32. HuDaFuK
    I always liked the idea that the Alien has acid blood because it's essentially a biological battery, and that's where it gets its energy from, and is why it can survive pretty much anywhere.
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