During the latest episode of the Empire podcast (via Screenrant), Ridley Scott was interviewed to promote Blade Runner 2049 and gave a few more details about the potential sequel to Alien Covenant. As expected, the film revolves around Michael Fassbender’s android character David.
At the end of Alien Covenant, we saw David had taken over the colony ship and was en route to Origae-6. In a sequel, it very much sounds like the Xenomorphs will take a back seat and we’ll see the world that David creates on the new planet. Skip to 54:30 in the podcast to the listen the Covenant segment.
“I think the evolution of the Alien himself is nearly over, but what I was trying to do was transcend and move to another story, which would be taken over by A.I.’s. The world that the AI might create as a leader if he finds himself on a new planet. We have actually quite a big layout for the next one – Covenant 2”
We last heard a few months ago that 20th Century Fox were ‘reassessing‘ the future of the Alien franchise after Covenant’s disappointing box office returns. Scott continues to say he made Prometheus for a good price and it made $460 million and Alien Covenant was made for the same budget four years later and did well again. He says he’ll be working a new movie soon which he’ll reveal in a couple of weeks.
Alien Covenant 2 will revolve more around David and less around Xenomorphs.
It’s unknown whether or not Katherine Waterston will return but the Alien Covenant 2 script has already been finished. Scott has previously said that Engineers will play a bigger role in the sequel and they will find out that their planet has been destroyed. I guess we’ll find out more news in the coming months – this all depends on whether or not Fox greenlights the project in the first place.
Thanks to Ingwar for the news.
You said my definition described Star Wars perfectly.
It doesn't, there's no mention of magic, meaning you're wrong.
If you leave out the magic of the force and the fact that the movie's set in the past and not in the future, sure.
Maybe people are tired of so many movie that depict ETs as wanting to kill us. Personally, I would love to see more realistic sci-fi films like The Martian, Interstellar, and even Contact.
Did you read the rest of my post?
Or did you choose to ignore it in order to start another one of your delightful discussions?
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Did you read your own definition? What exactly happened there?
Science-fiction:
fiction based on imagined future scientific or technological advances and major social or environmental changes, frequently portraying space or time travel and life on other planets.
Almost everything in the movie is made to look cool all while throwing science out the window. It's grounded in fantasy.
With the addition of the force it's basically knights and wizards in space.
The movie even starts like some fairytale: "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away."
So what you're really talking about is a niche market within the wider sci-fi genre.
Arrival did well compared to budget but for bums on seats it didn't set the world alight even though it had glowing reviews.
Robots, space ships, aliens, blasters, lightsabers, inter-galactic travel, dystopian society. Of course it's sci-fi.
Star Wars is fantasy not sci-fi.
No offence but that's just rubbish.
Absolutely this. Covenant was savaged by word of mouth. Lots of evidence to support this as well with its poor Cinemascore rating, negative Rotten Tomatoes audience score and a simple trawl through Twitter.
I don't think the beast is cooked, I just think Scott f**ked it.
Star Wars: The Force Awakens springs to mind...
Not necessarily, the drop off may have happened anyway. I personally just don't think audiences have much of an appetite for sci-fi at the moment.
I cant think of any recent sci-fi movie that has been a BO success.
Precisely. None of this is rocket science.
http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/alien/news/a829385/alien-covenant-drops-us-box-office-second-week/
Alien:Covenant's box office figures tell a very simple story: People gave it a chance on its first week, saw how terrible the film is, spread the word and doomed the film's box office chances.
Audiences just don't care for yet another chestbursting scene. It's more of the same. There are no surprises. The beast is cooked.
If Alien is to survive, it has to move even further into Prometheus territory.
I have no doubt it'll eventually come down to a reboot eventually.
Fox execs have been "meddling" with the franchise since the very beginning. Some would argue that it's their job.
Totally agree. Some mysteries - like where the alien came from - should remain intact.
That would be far more satisfying I think.
I want the alien universe to be widened not narrowed by humans or androids creating the xenomorph.
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I think it is a stick on we will find out.
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Isn't that because the two ships are identical?
Would you settle for Planet 'Dane Hallett et al'?
If Scott didn't want to make another another movie, then why didn't he just make a completely different movie? Why sign on to the Alien franchise just to turn it into something else entirely?
Originally the egg chamber was in a separate building, belonging to aliens who once lived on the planet.
And the derelict belonged to other aliens who visited the planet and went to the building.
But it was too expensive so they merged the ideas.
The creators always said Alien is a b-movie with an a-movie budget.
It's easier to cast tall actors for Engineers, instead of using cgi to enlarge them.
It's cheaper to build sets suitable for those taller than the average human, but not giant-sized.
I'm sure if special effects were better and if money was no object, we had giant Engineers, giant ships, giant buildings,...
Where was there 'sinister intent' in any of the films?
Yeah, but there was no "sinister" intent. Didn't they use children dressed in space suits for the establishing shots to enhance the illusion, and then a different model for the close ups. All that means was that the scale was off. That's just a simple continuity mistake.
What's clear though is that the jockey is significantly larger than David (or an other human), as well as the engineers in Prometheus.
That said, I agree with you: keep the SJ/Engineer at Luke n' Jake scale, please!
I mean that the original space jockey is huge in relation to Dallas, Lambert and Kane, as well as David and the engineers we see in Prometheus. You can see that in the long shots and the close ups. If they don't stay faithful to that, they will have failed in my book.
David finds a planetoid (LV-426) close enough to another engineer world (either homeworld or a planet colonised by them) to lure others to his location. David buries the Covenant just below the surface and sends out a distress beacon to lure said ships onto the planetoid. He spends roughly ten or so years using the embryos and colonists on the Covenant for his experimentation, creating eggs out of most of them. An Engineer ship comes along and lands on the planet. David tests his handiwork; maybe on the engineers, maybe on Daniels and Tennessee, maybe on both. Due to unforeseen events, he eventually gets his back pushed against a wall and has seemingly no way out. He dons a space engineer suit, absorbs some black goo, and grows to roughly 20 times his size (the black goo can apparently do anything in this universe, so why the hell not?). With his superior strength, he kills anyone and everyone who stands in his way, but in one last ditch effort, the final survivor tricks him into getting facehugged. He wakes up some time later but scoffs as he believes he's immune to the facehugger's effects. However, due to the black goo, he's somehow developed DNA and is more or less a living organism capable of harboring an alien inside (as I said, the black goo is basically a writer's way to have anything happen, so why the hell not). He gets in the iconic chair and prepares to take off but a chestburster bursts from him. He makes some last words that are supposed to be poignant but make the audience roll their eyes. Fire breaks out somehow and chars his body and burns part of the ship, including the alien. The ship's distress beacon goes off automatically. In a post-credits scene, we see W-Y receive the signal and order their nearest cargo ship to investigate.
I know it reads like fanfic, but honestly, I don't imagine the next movie really deviating all that much from the above.