In a recent interview with The Toronto Sun Sir Ridley Scott spoke a little more about his thoughts on the Alien series when asked if Daniels and Tennessee would be returning for Alien: Covenant 2 (aka Alien: Awakening).
“I think they have to. There’s no reason why Alien should now not be on the same level for fans as Star Trek and Star Wars. So I think the next step as to where we go is, do we sustain the Alien (series) with the evolution of the beast or do we reinvent something else? I think you need to have an evolution on this famous beast because he’s the best monster ever, really.”
The Toronto Sun also asked him if the next Alien film was still on the cards. Scott responded that he “would like to; they’re crazy if they don’t. David is a fantastic villain. I love what (Michael Fassbender) did in Covenant. But it’s f—ing hard, dude. We lifted Alien out of a ditch and made Prometheus.”
London UK : Cast and crew at the World Premiere of Alien – Covenant in London’s Leicester Square. (Credit: StillMoving.net for Fox)
A recent article from the folk over at Omega Underground states that 20th Century Fox had been serious about moving forward with Alien: Covenant 2 and had, at one point, considered a Summer 2018 for shooting.
According to HumanMedia, a member of the Blu-Ray.com forums who claims to have worked on Alien: Covenant, the sequel was originally scheduled to begin pre-production in September 2017 but was shelved after the tepid box office response to Alien: Covenant.
“The sequel to Covenant was originally due to start preproduction this month in Sydney. After the box office results filming was cancelled, and a warehouse storage unit full of stuff was auctioned off a few months ago. So the original plan of pumping out another quickly has definitely changed with no immediate plans for anything.”
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He created the alien. Not sure what movie you were watching.
What "10,000 years according to Prometheus"?
Of course he did because Scott is so in love with David that I'd be surprised if he isn't retroactively responsible for the birth of the f**king universe
hang on a moment ....... what ?
all we have seen is David bring to life an old science project that was obviously already perfected a long long time ago
at least 10,000 years according to the movie prometheus .
has David really created anything
Gotta make that film only two hours long, so let's cut all the character development scenes out to make room for this:
Does it surprise me that Ridley believes the dark subject matter would be the reason they wouldn't go ahead with the next one?! No! He can't seem to look inward and hold himself accountable for under performing returns. When better fan edits of his own films are made using the scenes he cut, it doesn't inspire confidence in his decision making!
Jar Jar was annoying and I wasn't a massive fan of the prequels. I don't think I ever said to myself though " I'm not wasting my time on the next one".
I feel like this is the same problem the Alien universe has suffered only bigger. They write these things like they are part of a story, but there's no story, the next movie has to pick dependant on what the director or the studio calls for.
Star Wars is a bit more confusing though since it suffers no budget or age restraints like Alien.
Predator is 100% going to do the same thing. It's practically locked in. There will be Predator language translated by a kid and it'll be a one liner.
Unfortunately there's not much similarity. TLJ could quite easily be a stand alone movie that happened to have the same characters in it. You might like it, but it's a very different movie from FA. In some way's it actually makes more sense to start the trilogy at TLJ.
Never this much hate? People are still whining about Jar-Jar and midiclorians nearly 20 years on.
I dunno man. I'm super interested to see the numbers on the next one. They will naturally be lower, but it does feel like a blow to the universe, there was never this much hate even on the prequels. If Alien didn't turn out the way fans thought it might, Star Wars just said hold my beer.
Still, it does follow; either an imperfect recreation by David, or his first original effort that he perfects in the finale.
http://collider.com/alien-covenant-spoilers-things-to-know/#effects
Thank you for finding that. However, it's hard to know here what he's saying 'yes' to. I think there's a world of difference between careful and consistent production design and making the Alien a 'flayed man' on a whim because the director thinks it fits the tone of the movie better. I'd lay money on it being Ridley's personal preference only. I very much doubt that they'd bother to follow through on having David upgrade his version with the full biomech treatment. Those of us who would notice or care are a subset of a subset (passionate fans). Realistically, this is like the constant changes to the Klingons in Star Trek; for all intents and purposes the same character, but radically different in the reimagining.
There was a similar conceit for the damp fleshy Pumpkinhead A:R design of course; human DNA. But in reality it was just ADI & co changing things up based upon personal preference. Same deal here. Except the Covenant interpretation is fantastic IMO. If you're going to change stuff for the sake of it, they did a hell of a job here of making the creature a proper gothic monster, and despite what I just said, an awesome organic forerunner design if anyone does care enough to follow through and biomech it up (grafting on the Engineer suit technology is the obvious way, as others have remarked). I just wish they'd kept the shoulder tubes.
Anyway, it's academic if we never get the third Ridley movie.
I feel in a similar way when I see the legs and the foots of the original monster. Even if the creature couldn't be able to move quickly and easily with the original design, those legs are elegant in comparison.
https://i.imgur.com/kjE8iaJ.jpg
Dude, I had all confidence you would catch on, eventually.
Moving on, as I had already stated earlier and now again, works for me.
100% agree with this and the rest of your post. Some have stated Scott has been an accomplished director, but he is no storyteller.
This is not the first time he's inserted a gimmick without any rhyme or reason to an already established and professional piece of literature. i.e. Blade Runner and the Deck-a-rep gimmick, which P. K. Dick never endorsed despite die hard fans insisting Dick saw footage and approved. True he saw footage, but it was only scenes of the city, Scott never revealed to Dick he was turning Deckard into a replicant. Dick died before the film was finished.
Dude, you just mirrored a joke that I did, and since then you have been exaggerating about it. But I agree, just move on.
Even if you have a creative or narrative idea behind doing it. It's still basically saying "Let's take one of the most interesting aspects of the design, one of the things that makes it stand out in the crowd, and remove it."
It's one of the most interesting parts of the design. The pipes, the tubes, the repeating ribbing. One of the biggest losses in my book too are the elegant hands of the original beast. None of the Aliens have had hands quite as cool as the original. All the rest have had really ungainly hands that seem over-sized or ill-proportioned. I just love the details.
https://www.yourprops.com/movieprops/original/4595207a8243f/Alien-Creature-Hand-1.jpg
So......moving on, I like the criticism description by OpenMaw, pretty much nailed it.....effectively. And thanks Hicks, for providing the film makers' reason for going that direction per Scott's orders, had not seen that. I still prefer the biomechanical style, but I guess Scott wanted a more animalistic look, and that's what they designed for him. I can't fault the designers for accomplishing what they were instructed to do.
Now THIS is how you give an effective criticism. At least, certainly better than stick cartoon comparisons. Thumbs up.
You people (Scott and colleagues) cannot fool me any longer. It's probably too expensive, landscapes are much more important, you know?
100% agree. From the very first viewing that scene has always held my fascination. But this vein of the conversation isn't about how mesmerizing that scene is, it's about how one can reduce any movie creature to animated mockery if one wanted to go that route.
Personally I see zero effectiveness in going that route to express disdain for a given film aspect, but for some reason film visual/dialogue childish mockery is popular in these forums. Now before anyone flames me about calling it childish, even a mod here recently declared that sort of film mockery is childish and makes the person look like a fool. . . . . . So don't kill the messenger.
It was spoken about during the set visits and some of the post release interviews. I remember one of the producers saying that the lack of biomechanical elements in its design was because they were heading in that direction for future films.
From our interview with Adam Johnansen - http://www.avpgalaxy.net/website/interviews/adam-johansen/
As to the Covenant variation of the design. Honestly it just looks like ADI doubled down on their previous designs. All the biomechanics are stripped out. Whether that's intentional or not, it takes away one of the interesting design aspects of the creature. Frankly, we've had enough of the pumpkin-head-o-morphs from A:R, AVP, and Requiem.
I love that shot. There's something really ethereal about how it looks and moves. Shame they can't recapture that.
I understand it too, but I'm not even sure if it is actually the case or if it's something fans just came up with. The film never outright implies that "this is a beta Xeno," and I can't remember Ridley mentioning it. People still say, though, that it isn't the final version of the Alien. I mean, yes, logically it's an early version, but there's honestly nothing to say that it isn't. If you asked the average viewer what they thought, they'd just say it's a Xenomorph.
Ok.
Forward moonwalking is... er.. walking?
I did, that's why I'm asking.
One thing's for sure. The next time you watch that scene in Alien 79 when the creature starts "gliding," I would bet the farm you will not be able to keep from thinking about Michael Jackson's Moonwalk and you will be cursing under your lip, "that damn Biomechanoid, he forever ruined that scene for me."
.......oops, I almost forgot Poe's winky........
Nope.
Ridley wanted to scare the shit out of people twice, but clearly there were not many merits to achieve this purpose. And the Xenomorph's return can't be more average. Maybe he should have stayed with his previous idea:
Now about the gifs in my last reply, next time I will put a winking smiley to avoid any confusion: Poe's law
Heh-heh, well now in all fairness, one could reduce any movie creature to an animated mockery if one were to go that route.......
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I understand that David's breed is not complete yet, but I still feel kinda disappointed for the way they handled the creature.
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Yes, it is ultimately about the Xenomorph. The prequels are not, but they should be.