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Disney Is Reportedly Vaulting 20th Century Fox’s Classic Films, And Alien Is One Of Them

While Disney’s long history of vaulting its own films in an effort to create artificial demand for those vaulted films is set to come to an end with Disney+, it seems 20th Century Fox classics such as The Fly, The Omen and Alien are now taking the place of the likes of The Lion King and Peter Pan.

A new report from Vulture explains that requests to screen some classic Fox films are being refused, with the simple explanation from a Fox booking agent that they could “no longer book repertory titles.” Vulture explains that it seems the decision is aimed at cinemas that profit from distributing older titles alongside new ones, where non-profit organisations will still be able to show them:

Disney officially declined to comment for this piece, but a film distributor with firsthand knowledge of the company’s policy says it is directed at theaters that screen first-run Disney and Fox content alongside older titles. The distributor said that screenings of vintage Fox films would still be allowed at nonprofit theaters such as Film Forum in New York and Segundo’s Old Town Music Hall, and in some other venues, including outdoor screenings in public spaces and at museums and cultural institutions (particularly ones dedicated to cinema, such as the Museum of the Moving Image in Astoria, New York, and the Gene Siskel Film Center in Chicago).

 Disney Is Reportedly Vaulting 20th Century Fox's Classic Films, And Alien Is One Of Them

Queues outside the Egyptian Theatre on Alien’s opening day on May 23rd 1979.

Something to note is that the Vulture reports that each request is actually judged on a case-by-case basis, with exceptions for things such as anniversaries:

And there might be some exemptions granted for special occasions such as anniversaries. But each instance would be considered on a case-by-case basis, with no guarantee that the decision will go the theater’s way, no matter what Fox films it had been able to wrangle a week, a month, or a year earlier.

Relating specifically to this news and Alien, the article also provides an example of how Disney’s vaulting policy has already stopped a screening of Alien:

In August, Rachel Fox, the senior programmer for the Rio Theater near Vancouver, tried to book the original Alien to play alongside the upcoming Alien making-of documentary, Memory: The Origins of Alien. Disney told her that the title was unavailable, even though Alien has had one-off screenings in theaters all over North America throughout 2019, the movie’s 40th anniversary year, and is being shown via satellite in hundreds of theaters by Fathom Events this month.

From the perspective of an Alien and Predator fan, where I believe this may impact us most is in smaller cinemas such as The Prince Charles Cinema (I pick on this solely because I’ve been to showings there several times) in England that frequently run the older films. I expect it’s likely we’ll still see screenings for larger events such as Alien Day or this year’s 40th anniversary of Alien. But that is just supposition on my part.

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  1. Voodoo Magic
    Thanks to JC, I suspect an Aliens 4K Disc will never come out unfortunately. We'll have moved onto 8K streaming by that point.

    Geez, James Cameron still has to review the blu-ray transfers for True Lies and The Abyss. Fans have only been waiting forever for those...
  2. Corporal Hicks
    I wouldn't say that with any certainty. It's situational dependent. Seems to be some leeway for anniversaries, so if Aliens get a 4K or 3D treatment, then odds are we'd see a cinematic re-release, even with them being "vaulted."
  3. Kimo
    This year I finally got to see some classics on the big screen. I was too young to go and see them when they were first released at the cinema. Them films were Alien, The Terminator and Terminator 2 Judgement Day all awesome experiences even know I've seen them films countless times over the years on home formats. I was all hyped thinking maybe I will finally get to see Aliens at the cinema some time in the near future? so does that now mean I won't get a chance to finally watch Aliens anytime soon on the big screen?  :(
  4. SuperiorIronman
    It's not so much vaulting so much as they're stopping doing business with independent theaters. Yeah that's going to hurt that market substantially, but that's more so another nail in the coffin given how easy it already is to pick up a copy of Alien 3 or Mr.Mom. Both of which will be on Hulu and Disney+ and at your local Wal-mart if not your convenience store if they are not already.
  5. Huggs
    Good luck getting anybody to pay $30 for a digital copy when the discs are all gone. When a studio doesn't even have to fool with cases, artwork, disc manufacturing, packaging and distribution, nobody's going to want to pay the same money for a file that they'd fork over for a steelbook 4k combo.

    Not to mention the millions of people who still don't have decent internet, or any internet at all.
  6. SuperiorIronman
    Quote from: dinosauriac on Nov 04, 2019, 06:12:43 PM
    Well, fair enough. Just so long as they don't start taking the discs out of print or cancel any future release plans. We only just got the first film on ultra HD.

    They will eventually stop printing a run of discs, that's pretty much expected. Without significant overhaul or another release I don't know why they would make another set. We're really only going to be in trouble if they scour the internet to remove all the DVD's from the store fronts and somehow purge them from retail stores.

    I'd imagine you should still be able to rent Aliens from PSN or pick up a copy of Predator 2 at Walmart.
  7. dinosauriac
    Well, fair enough. Just so long as they don't start taking the discs out of print or cancel any future release plans. We only just got the first film on ultra HD.
  8. Samhain13
    Quote from: Huggs on Nov 04, 2019, 02:34:37 AM
    Driving all the way to a specific theater and paying at least $12 per person, before snacks, just to see a movie you can buy for $5 and watch in high definition on a large screen tv or with a modern projector at home. Complete with climate control and a private bathroom and kitchen.

    Technically if you aren't in a hurry to see it, you can just get it for free eventually. I kind of like seeing movies in the big screen though, even though I don't enjoy most of the stuff that gets released these days.

    Quote from: Local Trouble on Nov 04, 2019, 02:43:55 AM
    Physical media should be confiscated.

    Come at me brah.
  9. Huggs
    Driving all the way to a specific theater and paying at least $12 per person, before snacks, just to see a movie you can buy for $5 and watch in high definition on a large screen tv or with a modern projector at home. Complete with climate control and a private bathroom and kitchen.

    I don't see how it could be a huge portion of the market.
  10. SuperiorIronman
    Quote from: David's Creation on Oct 31, 2019, 10:03:00 AM
    Seems so stupid.  I can't imagine old film screenings take much business from new ones.


    That might be exactly why they did it.
    The fee to get it screened might not be worth it given I can't imagine there is enough of these theaters for it to be a particular boon. It has a stake in two other services with Fox products and theirs a bunch of theaters screening the Fox library that Disney could be getting DVD/Blu-ray sales off of, or even streaming be it from Amazon, PSN, Microsoft, or their own sites.

    It sucks it'll be removed but on Disney's end one way or the other it makes little difference to them. They could keep it around and let the small notch in streaming sales happen, or they cut it and almost no difference in sales are likely to occur. One way or the other independent theaters are irrelevant to them.
  11. EVILthePREDATOR
    @ Local Trouble, I hate MCU, I don't get what all the fuss is about. Half the characters don't even resemble their comic book counter parts. And with corny jokes relentlessly pushed in my face, I'd rather pass altogether. Take Spider-Man for example, I have nothing against Tom Holland, but the Peter Parker I grew up knowing always struggled, and was full of pain and heart break. He made his own costumes and struggled to make ends meet. And most importantly no one knew his real identity. It was a character cursed with his own powers. Burdened even.

    His corny jokes against bad guys were just his form of dealing with being Spider-Man. With Holland everything is just on a plate for him and it's just too easy. (Talking to you there Mr Stark!) It's almost a different character entirely.

    The original Spider-Man films while not perfect nailed the essence of Spider-Man from the comics.

    Into the spider-verse is another example of how to do this character.

    Why can't marvel get its own characters right? Yet Sony can? My conclusion is marvel could get their characters right if they wanted to, but Disney interferes too much.

  12. Horseradish
    Ah yes, obviously the MCU is beyond reproach because the critics like them and critics like, watch a lot if movies and are thus smart and stuff. Don't actually pay attention to the quality of the movies and form your own opinion. And the fact that these critics are often either invited to special screenings and treated like princes or are otherwise just hopelessly obsessed comic book nerds desperate to have their favorite characters validated anyway is also irrelevant.
  13. The Old One
    I've got the OG versions of the OG Trilogy on Blu-ray. Surrounded with beautiful OG poster art.

    And TCW is superior to anything Lucasfilm's done without George Lucas since. And Rogue One is good yes, but it's incredibly disingenuous to say it's all sunshine and roses, the general audience score isn't anywhere near good for the sequel era, regardless of critical opinion.
  14. EVILthePREDATOR
    I think Rogue one is Disney's best effort so far.
    I had a blast with it.
    What I liked is it wasn't afraid to take risks, it wasn't a happy ending and it was absolutely epic seeing Darth Vader again. Also I think it nailed the doom and gloom feel of the empire strikes back.

    For what it's worth I'd say rogue one beats any of the prequels.

    If they could replicate rogue ones success with alien and predator. I'd be a happy man.
  15. Elmazalman
    Quote from: EVILthePREDATOR on Nov 03, 2019, 11:27:49 PM
    Perhaps I'm biased as Iv been to Disney world when I was a kid and it's one of my favorite memories, so forgive me, but I really don't get the hostility towards Disney.

    Sure have they become too powerful absolutely YES.

    But..

    Everyone seems to forget what a terrible job George Lucas did with the Star Wars prequels. Disney bashers and ultra Star Wars fans are quick to point fingers yet it's like they have selective memories. I think Disney's efforts have been far better, especially rogue one. Which imho was the best Star Wars film made since The empire strikes back.
    I haven't forgotten what Lucas did to his own STAR WARS creation. He has trashed the classic original films with his sh*tty SE abominations - boasting (already dated) cancerous, CGI junk that only serves to highlight the age of the original surrounding material. The films are products of their time - the late 1970's and early 80's. The fool refuses to release the superior originals.

    His downward slide began with the rubbish creations - the Ewoks. There hasn't been a truly great STAR WARS film since The Empire Strikes Back.

    True, he gave us STAR WARS - then takes it back and replaces it with 'plastic' STAR WARS. The 1997 / 2004 / 2011 / ? SPECIAL EDITIONS are a travesty.

    It goes without saying, but I'll say it anyway: "The prequels suck the fat one - BIG TIME!"
  16. SM
    QuoteSure these movies are financially successful but so were the Transformers movies.

    Yep!  Just lazily ignore all the positive reviews, which is the complete opposite of the Transformers.
  17. Elmazalman
    Quote from: Horseradish on Nov 03, 2019, 08:00:16 PM
    I don't think Disney has released anything actually good in Bob Iger's tenure. Yes, that includes the MCU and Star Wars. Sure these movies are financially successful but so were the Transformers movies.

    The weird thing is, because of the sickening cult-like mentality surrounding comic book movies these days we have to pretend they're genius works of art instead of bloated mediocrities with serviceable writing and charismatic actors.
    Agreed. I'm fortunate in not being a big comic book or superhero fan, although I do enjoy the first two Superman (1978 & 1980) films, so the success - or failure of these comic book CGI sh*t-fests means nothing to me.
  18. EVILthePREDATOR
    Perhaps I'm biased as Iv been to Disney world when I was a kid and it's one of my favorite memories, so forgive me, but I really don't get the hostility towards Disney.

    Sure have they become too powerful absolutely YES.

    But..

    Everyone seems to forget what a terrible job George Lucas did with the Star Wars prequels. Disney bashers and ultra Star Wars fans are quick to point fingers yet it's like they have selective memories. I think Disney's efforts have been far better, especially rogue one. Which imho was the best Star Wars film made since The empire strikes back.

    I say this because it's almost like history repeating itself, has everyone just gone and forgot what a terrible job Fox was doing with alien and predator? Especially predator. (Just look at The predator)

    People say Disney are just hungry for money, but from where Iv been standing it's been Fox who that fits more with.

    They have been feeding us garbage since god knows when and it's about the only consistent thing about 20th century fox in terms of alien and predator.

    I'm glad they don't have creative control with both franchises anymore. Fresh minds and fresh talent are what both franchises have needed for a long time.

    Let's just hope Disney get this right.


  19. Horseradish
    I don't think Disney has released anything actually good in Bob Iger's tenure. Yes, that includes the MCU and Star Wars. Sure these movies are financially successful but so were the Transformers movies.

    The weird thing is, because of the sickening cult-like mentality surrounding comic book movies these days we have to pretend they're genius works of art instead of bloated mediocrities with serviceable writing and charismatic actors.
  20. The Old One
    It isn't entirely incorrect in it's sentiment, and Disney (apart from funding) had no part in the MCU's success or Star Wars' failure.
  21. Xenomrph
    Quote from: Elmazalman on Nov 02, 2019, 07:26:51 PM
    Quote from: Xenomrph on Nov 02, 2019, 02:26:02 PM
    Quote from: Nostromo on Nov 02, 2019, 11:52:49 AM
    Quote from: Elmazalman on Nov 01, 2019, 10:21:32 AM
    All the more reason to treasure my discs. F**K DISNEY.

    True, f**k Disney with their pea brain, low story IQ, washed out, played out, dumbass movies for the dumb masses. I excpect every Alien movie going forward to have at best an AVP2 storyline and script. I hope I'm wrong lol.
    I never really got this mentality.

    Like yeah there's plenty of reasons to dislike the House of Mouse (such as "vaulting" movies), but that doesn't mean I need to hate every movie they release. I've had an extremely good time with the MCU and a lot of their other stuff, and frankly I'm excited to see what they do with A/P/AvP. If we get a coherent string of movies that explore different ideas while still tying together like the MCU then I'll be overjoyed. If we don't.... then we're no worse off than before, really.
    The only live action movie from DISNEY worth anything is 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (1954). Don't give a sh*t about their STAR WARS output or ruinous intent for the ALIEN franchise.

    Apart from 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, the STAR WARS trilogy (original theatrical versions) is all I want from DISNEY.
    That sure is one hot take.
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