Following on from Constantine Sekeris’ artwork of Predator monkey hybrids yesterday, another of The Predator’s concept artists – Ben Mauro – has shared some of his own work done for early concepts of Predator hybrids.
Some Predator exploration back in 2016, always fun to explore different ideas early on in a project. These were an evolution of some early ideas Constantine Sekeris explored on the project that I was asked to take a crack at.
Other artists who worked on the hybrid creatures include Bryan Wynia, Ken Barthelmey and the team at ADI. We’ll be on the lookout for more Predator hybrid artwork from them!
Ben Mauro also worked on the Predator Dogs, coming into the design of that particular creature later and being tasked with working out the colour pallet.
I originally worked on the project to design a lot of new alien ideas, the Predator Dog was the last task I worked on. Bryan Wynia and the ADI guys had already done most of the development on the design and I was asked to figure out color/skin patterns/dredds and some refinement/exploration in a few different directions. I wasn’t given the model the other guys made at the time so this was sculpted from a sphere in Zbrush based on the earlier work Bryan/ADI had done.
Predator Dog
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Great pic! I'm still sad Edward James Olmos was cut from the film.
Oh look, more Crabators! I'm suddenly hungry for seafood!
Awesome detail on the elbows, hands, forehead. Hell, everywhere
Just curious, had anyone already posted this picture below?
https://i.imgur.com/Y8aliuk.jpg
Just an interesting shot of the cast (with Edward James Olmos & the Emissary Predators)
Damn, I sure do love Fugitive.
https://twitter.com/theBAPrince/status/1086390037128847365
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Ah, sorry for the mistaken identity / mistaken recollection good friend. Also glad you found the topic with merrit. Now, on to business.
{ scans room for a certain suspicious individual, until finding him at the bar }
RidgeTop...
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Pft. Was RidgeTop who didn't want to ask that. Though I knew it might go down poorly, I knew it needed asking.
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Not saying all Predators should be the same,
but the way the mandibles operate should be.
https://www.facebook.com/AliensFX/
AliensFX, my bad.
Couldn't find anything on "AlienFX" BTW, kept getting A.W.
That video looks like one of AlienFX's suits. They do amazing replicas of the original Predator -- but they're specifically trying to create replicas. Their custom Predators can be quite different.
to be older and accessorised to look different.
KNB's also got wrinkly mouth going on.
This guy/gal's got it more right than
anyone since 1990- and I'm not saying
ADI or KNB didn't do other things right.
IMO they can and have gotten nearly -
all else correct but the mandibles.
Anderson wanted more "heroic", handsome-looking Predators, so the mandibles became marginalised. With AvPR they wanted to make the most of the fact they didn't need to use the actor's eyes and created a very differently shaped head. The Predator, eh, probably used to it by now and nobody said to do otherwise.
The "x" is only for certain cases. The original doesn't actually make much of an "X", more of a T or Y shape. The lower mandibles aim relatively straight up, and the upper mandibles either sit across or with a slight downward turn.
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The lower mandibles aim in a bit, but it's not an X.
EDIT
I should specific "T or Y at rest"...
Yeah, I whole heartedly disagree with SiL's suggestion. P2's City Hunter and the Elder was just as good as P1's Jungle Hunter in my opinion.
Yeah, I'll still give props to KNB. It's no Winston design but at least it's not a Crabator.
https://i.ibb.co/px3zkdC/IMG-20190104-134057.jpg
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So, the problem comes from not sculpting the mouth to close to begin with-
I wonder then is that a choice ADI made or it just so happens to be a choice;
Paul Anderson, The Strause Bros and Shane Black all made.
https://imats.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/LA11_museum_KNB_Predator.jpg
Then you've got KNB- that got the "X" correct, but otherwise the mouth
couldn't close or articulate much, to quote Leonna and then Danny boy-
"What the f**k is going on?"
"This is not good Mike, not good at all."
Yeah but i had no issue with the P2 pred effects (aside from that one shot with the wide eyes, but thats just one shot.), even if they werent better than the original. I would be happy to get back to even that level of qaulity when it comes to the mandibles/mouth.
Hence the problem. It results in The Crabator, unnecessary, widely unappealing changes to the fictional character's inherent design.
Hell, Winston's own team couldn't do it
I agree my friend, on all counts.
The "sculpting the Fugitive" video clearly shows the mandibles aren't sculpted to fully close over the mouth to begin with.
As the for X shape, it makes it a few times in the film. Most of the time the upper mandibles are angled and the lower are straighter -- much like the original Predator they were mimicking (See Voodoo's stills)
In the original its pretty much perfect.
Hence one of many reasons why I'm not thrilled with ADI designs.
My screenshot was taken from YouTube. Let's not get nit-picky. It's close enough and something the ADI designs could never come close to doing.
It's still unclear on whether they can or can't close the mouth.
Or articulate it into the shape of the "X" seen on the thumbnail.
I haven't seen one frame from AVP, AVPR or The Predator
when it was articulated into the "X" shape or the mouth
closed in that "X" shape. This includes Behind the Scenes.
Although, I mean, neither does the P2 Pred in that screenshot you used. Elsewhere in the movie it does.
Though, over-animation has nothing to do with it's inability to close its mouth.
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I was so happy to hear Old One's queston raised, and was looking forward to finally understanding the drastic design changes. But Alec did sound a bit defensive in my opinion, and was quick to dismiss the question as nonsense. Also, Hicks surprisingly even had trepidation in asking her question, which confounded the situation even further.
I even articulated the question
to ask if it was either a design
choice or a technical limitation.
He did?
I'll be honest, I didn't listen to the interview
when I heard the question wasn't answered.
I'm sad if it's true he took offense
because I annotated the question
with praise for their work on Alien³.
But not whatever animatronic
utilisation they have access to.
Fade to Black
"My name is Prophet, remember me."
Definitely more palatable.
Actually seeing a human hunting with a Predator on some alien planet wearing this a practical suit would be a cool visual.
At least that one does not have dreads and his casters are somewhat normal sized.
It looks better, plus makes more sense without the dreads imo
Sort of reminds me of the Hell Razers from Doom 2016.