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“It’s Crazy Not To Do Something With It” – Ridley Scott on Alien under Disney

Talking to Digital Spy in new interview, Sir Ridley Scott spoke about the merger between 20th Century Fox and Disney and his thoughts on the possible continuation of the Alien franchise under the House of Mouse.

“I’m hoping I’ll still probably be there so whether or not they go ahead with such a dark subject, being Disney, as aliens remains to be seen. I think they should because I think, when people have a hard and fast franchise which has ongoing interest, it’s crazy not to do something with it.”

While Disney is not known for directly releasing more adult content like Alien, in the past they have owned companies that have such as Miramax, Dimension Films and Touchstone Pictures. Disney has spoke about retaining Fox Searchlight and Fox 2000 as separate entities following the merger so it’s possible any future Alien or Predator films could be put out under those banners.

On the subject of other R-rated material, Disney’s CEO Bob Iger recently confirmed that there was a place within a Disney owned Marvel universe for more R-rated Deadpool films, saying that: “we think there might be an opportunity for a Marvel-R brand for something like Deadpool. As long as we let the audiences know what’s coming, we think we can manage that fine.” So Disney are definitely open to the R-rated content coming from the merger.

In the interview with Digital Spy Scott also spoke a little more about having a plan for where Alien: Covenant 2 would be heading: “I’m in tune with where Covenant 2 would go. We already know what we’d do with that. You’ve got to have a fundamental platform and target where you would take it. It’s a bit like having the skeleton before the meat goes on.”

Thanks to Ingwar and Whos_Nick for the news. Keep a close eye on Alien vs. Predator Galaxy for the latest on Alien: Covenant and Alien: Covenant 2! You can follow us on FacebookTwitter and Instagram to get the latest on your social media walls. You can also join in with fellow Alien fans on our forums!



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  1. D. Compton Ambrose
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    Fire has always existed but it wasn't until mankind discovered it could be created and bent to our will that we become powerful.

    When Prometheus gave it to us, you mean.

    touché
    Man what the hell. I'm supposed to get to say touché. Talk about stealing my fire.

    I knew what you meant, semantics aside... ;)
  2. Perfect-Organism
    I think a lot of fans wanted something like Pandora in Avatar, except 'Gigeresque'.  The home planet of the xenomorphs.  Some Giger nightmare world that originated the creatures as a product of evolution, and the Space Jockeys/Engineers found them and tried to control them like Weyland Yutani.

    That seems to be the predominate fan theory/fan fiction before Prometheus.

    Yes!!  Gigerworld!  Please!
  3. Scorpio
    I think a lot of fans wanted something like Pandora in Avatar, except 'Gigeresque'.  The home planet of the xenomorphs.  Some Giger nightmare world that originated the creatures as a product of evolution, and the Space Jockeys/Engineers found them and tried to control them like Weyland Yutani.

    That seems to be the predominate fan theory/fan fiction before Prometheus.
  4. SM
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    Fire has always existed but it wasn't until mankind discovered it could be created and bent to our will that we become powerful.

    When Prometheus gave it to us, you mean.
  5. whiterabbit
    Fire has always existed but it wasn't until mankind discovered it could be created and bent to our will that we become powerful.

    David's fire is the black goo and he has bent it to his will. So the goo and xenomorph dna existed before David but it is what you do with that fire that makes one a creator. Considering the aliens in Covenant look and act differently from Big Chap, there's still work to do and it's what David does next that becomes The Modern Alien.
  6. tleilaxu
    So the xenomorph has personal and foreign origins, which makes it more compelling from a narrative standpoint than if it were either one or the other.

    I would argue that from a narrative standpoint giving the alien 'personal' origins is anathema to what was great about the original film.
    It's funny you say that because in the original film, the "alien" uses a human host to procreate.
  7. D. Compton Ambrose
    So the xenomorph has personal and foreign origins, which makes it more compelling from a narrative standpoint than if it were either one or the other.

    I would argue that from a narrative standpoint giving the alien 'personal' origins is anathema to what was great about the original film.

    It doesn't have personal origins though. It has so many origins it is intentionally difficult to place any one point of central divergence. Will we ever know just how many times it has been wiped out and brought back from extinction by AI or others who become so enraptured with it as though it were some long-lost lover or relative? And even then, there are still many unanswered questions and mysteries left open before the prequel series is concluded (if it ever is), but I don't think they should be answered. The connection between the bio-mechanical appearance of the Xenomorph and the Engineer biotechnology, the organism on the Derelict, the eggs on the Derelict, ANYTHING about LV-426 in relation to the prequels, among other things, such as how David knew they required a Queen as a physical manifestation of a pre-existing hive-mind... guys, the Xenomorph is more than just a physical creature, it's more like a force. That is basically what I'm getting from all of this. The Engineers, even if they didn't make it, they SAW it somewhere before. There is an entirely "other" layer and component of this equation. The Xenomorph when looked at as more of an essence than merely a physical being makes more sense. What would a perfect organism be? Well, an organism that comes from somewhere inorganic, obviously, or beyond mere organics. There is no such thing as a perfect organism - ergo, its origins are far more complicated than the physical creation aspect of the beast, because the physical creation is just the tip of the iceberg...
  8. Gash
    I'm fine with David creating the xenomorph.  The Engineers created the black goo that created the xenomorph.  The Engineers also created an early ancestor of the xenomorph.  That's enough to say it wasn't wholly created by David.  So it's the best of both worlds.  You get a personal story of creation by an insane android and a wider story of an ancient race creating a perfect weapon.  So the xenomorph has personal and foreign origins, which makes it more compelling from a narrative standpoint than if it were either one or the other.

    Yeah, that.
  9. Scorpio
    I'm fine with David creating the xenomorph.  The Engineers created the black goo that created the xenomorph.  The Engineers also created an early ancestor of the xenomorph.  That's enough to say it wasn't wholly created by David.  So it's the best of both worlds.  You get a personal story of creation by an insane android and a wider story of an ancient race creating a perfect weapon.  So the xenomorph has personal and foreign origins, which makes it more compelling from a narrative standpoint than if it were either one or the other.
  10. Predator@Alien
    Of course it's a Deacon.
    I don't know why everyone want to see a Xeno... It's a Deacon, the production wanted to put a Deacon, the Engineers created it. And now you will say that in Prometheus it was random circumstances, but no. Human genome and Engineers genome is the same, so same result. Moreover, the effects of the black goo show that every administration create a creature which have similar characteristics : acid for blood, elongated head, no eyes for example. David has just advanced the Deacon to create the Xenomorph. I don't know why everybody always want to find something to contradict that, maybe it's a problem because you don't like that but David create the Xenomorph, that's it...
  11. prometheusfire08
    erm...... the engineers created the Alien.
    a movie I watched called prometheus shows a crew of explorers going to a far away star system where they come upon a structure ( at least 2000 years old ) that features paintings and sculptures of the Alien.........

    not really much you can argue with that .


    unless you think David is a time traveler 😂😂😂
  12. SM
    summed up in four words: 'David made the Alien'. And that contribution undermines the entire franchise.

    hang on a moment ....... what ?
    all we have seen is David bring to life an old science project that was obviously already perfected a long long time ago

    at least 10,000 years according to the movie prometheus .
    has David really created anything ???

    What "10,000 years according to Prometheus"?
  13. Deathbearer
    summed up in four words: 'David made the Alien'. And that contribution undermines the entire franchise.

    hang on a moment ....... what ?
    all we have seen is David bring to life an old science project that was obviously already perfected a long long time ago

    at least 10,000 years according to the movie prometheus .
    has David really created anything ???


    Of course he did because Scott is so in love with David that I'd be surprised if he isn't retroactively responsible for the birth of the f**king universe
  14. prometheusfire29
     summed up in four words: 'David made the Alien'. And that contribution undermines the entire franchise.

    hang on a moment ....... what ?
    all we have seen is David bring to life an old science project that was obviously already perfected a long long time ago

    at least 10,000 years according to the movie prometheus .
    has David really created anything ???
  15. Jones Lives
    “I’m hoping I’ll still probably be there so whether or not they go ahead with such a dark subject, being Disney, as aliens remains to be seen. I think they should because I think, when people have a hard and fast franchise which has ongoing interest, it’s crazy not to do something with it.”

    Does it surprise me that Ridley believes the dark subject matter would be the reason they wouldn't go ahead with the next one?! No! He can't seem to look inward and hold himself accountable for under performing returns. When better fan edits of his own films are made using the scenes he cut, it doesn't inspire confidence in his decision making!
  16. Highland
    $4.2b over three films and overwhelmingly positive reviews = screwed up?

    I dunno man. I'm super interested to see the numbers on the next one. They will naturally be lower, but it does feel like a blow to the universe, there was never this much hate even on the prequels. If Alien didn't turn out the way fans thought it might, Star Wars just said hold my beer.

    Never this much hate?  People are still whining about Jar-Jar and midiclorians nearly 20 years on.

    Jar Jar was annoying and I wasn't a massive fan of the prequels. I don't think I ever said to myself though " I'm not wasting my time on the next one".

    I feel like this is the same problem the Alien universe has suffered only bigger. They write these things like they are part of a story, but there's no story, the next movie has to pick dependant on what the director or the studio calls for.

    Star Wars is a bit more confusing though since it suffers no budget or age restraints like Alien.

    Predator is 100% going to do the same thing. It's practically locked in. There will be Predator language translated by a kid and it'll be a one liner.

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    I haven't seen the new one yet, but The Force Awakens was pretty cool.

    Unfortunately there's not much similarity. TLJ could quite easily be a stand alone movie that happened to have the same characters in it. You might like it, but it's a very different movie from FA. In some way's it actually makes more sense to start the trilogy at TLJ.
  17. SM
    $4.2b over three films and overwhelmingly positive reviews = screwed up?

    I dunno man. I'm super interested to see the numbers on the next one. They will naturally be lower, but it does feel like a blow to the universe, there was never this much hate even on the prequels. If Alien didn't turn out the way fans thought it might, Star Wars just said hold my beer.

    Never this much hate?  People are still whining about Jar-Jar and midiclorians nearly 20 years on.
  18. Highland
    $4.2b over three films and overwhelmingly positive reviews = screwed up?

    I dunno man. I'm super interested to see the numbers on the next one. They will naturally be lower, but it does feel like a blow to the universe, there was never this much hate even on the prequels. If Alien didn't turn out the way fans thought it might, Star Wars just said hold my beer.
  19. The Highlander MacLeod
    With the way Disney screwed up the Star Wars franchise, I'm doubtful they will do the right thing by the Alien & Predator franchises. Only time will tell. 
  20. Biggles
    Ah yes, sorry, I'd forgotten about that. I have to take him at his word, but I don't have much faith that everyone involved shares Mr Seagers's logic or would stick to it in any sequel that happens. The Prometheus juggernaut was also de-biomechanised in production, and that had nowt to do with some plan to later recreate it more faithfully.

    Still, it does follow; either an imperfect recreation by David, or his first original effort that he perfects in the finale.
  21. Biggles
    From our interview with Adam Johnansen - http://www.avpgalaxy.net/website/interviews/adam-johansen/

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    AvPGalaxy – The adult Alien seems to lack the biomechanical elements of the original film’s Alien. From what Chris Seagers alluded to in a previous interview, it seems like this was a deliberate choice as the later films will eventually introduce more biomechanical elements into the design?

    Adam Johansen – Yes, Ridley wanted a more animalistic, primal version of the Xenomorph. Not the bio mechanical version we know from the original films.

    Thank you for finding that. However, it's hard to know here what he's saying 'yes' to. I think there's a world of difference between careful and consistent production design and making the Alien a 'flayed man' on a whim because the director thinks it fits the tone of the movie better. I'd lay money on it being Ridley's personal preference only. I very much doubt that they'd bother to follow through on having David upgrade his version with the full biomech treatment. Those of us who would notice or care are a subset of a subset (passionate fans). Realistically, this is like the constant changes to the Klingons in Star Trek; for all intents and purposes the same character, but radically different in the reimagining.

    There was a similar conceit for the damp fleshy Pumpkinhead A:R design of course; human DNA. But in reality it was just ADI & co changing things up based upon personal preference. Same deal here. Except the Covenant interpretation is fantastic IMO. If you're going to change stuff for the sake of it, they did a hell of a job here of making the creature a proper gothic monster, and despite what I just said, an awesome organic forerunner design if anyone does care enough to follow through and biomech it up (grafting on the Engineer suit technology is the obvious way, as others have remarked). I just wish they'd kept the shoulder tubes.

    Anyway, it's academic if we never get the third Ridley movie.
  22. Immortan Jonesy
    I'm staring at one of my Big Chap figures right now. I just can't understand the thinking behind sapping out the bio-mechanical aspect.

    Even if you have a creative or narrative idea behind doing it. It's still basically saying "Let's take one of the most interesting aspects of the design, one of the things that makes it stand out in the crowd, and remove it."

    It's one of the most interesting parts of the design. The pipes, the tubes, the repeating ribbing. One of the biggest losses in my book too are the elegant hands of the original beast. None of the Aliens have had hands quite as cool as the original. All the rest have had really ungainly hands that seem over-sized or ill-proportioned. I just love the details.

    https://www.yourprops.com/movieprops/original/4595207a8243f/Alien-Creature-Hand-1.jpg

    I feel in a similar way when I see the legs and the foots of the original monster. Even if the creature couldn't be able to move quickly and easily with the original design, those legs are elegant in comparison. 

    https://i.imgur.com/kjE8iaJ.jpg
  23. Biomechanoid
    Dude, you just mirrored a joke that I did.

    Dude, I had all confidence you would catch on, eventually.

    But I agree, just move on.

    Moving on, as I had already stated earlier and now again, works for me.

    Even if you have a creative or narrative idea behind doing it. It's still basically saying "Let's take one of the most interesting aspects of the design, one of the things that makes it stand out in the crowd, and remove it."

    100% agree with this and the rest of your post. Some have stated Scott has been an accomplished director, but he is no storyteller.

    This is not the first time he's inserted a gimmick without any rhyme or reason to an already established and professional piece of literature. i.e. Blade Runner and the Deck-a-rep gimmick, which P. K. Dick never endorsed despite die hard fans insisting Dick saw footage and approved. True he saw footage, but it was only scenes of the city, Scott never revealed to Dick he was turning Deckard into a replicant. Dick died before the film was finished.
  24. Immortan Jonesy
    @Biomechanoid, you are making a straw man argument, dude.
    If there was logical fallacy, you might have a point, but the very fact that I simply mirrored what you did, not my problem you failed to comprehend the dose of other-side-of-the-coin. . . . dude.

    Dude, you just mirrored a joke that I did, and since then you have been exaggerating about it. But I agree, just move on.
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