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RidgeTop, Xenomorphine and I talk about Scott’s comment and if we think there’s any truth in that statement. We also throw out a wishlist of other directors we’d like to see take on an Alien film and just we also talk about whether Disney owning Alien and Predator is really such a bad thing?
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That's not how it works.
Personally, I find someone having the ability to acknowledge his own flaws and want to work on them is reassuring.
A perfectionist would have gotten it right the first time.
He should only do AVP films.
Which is usually the mark of a perfectionist, not someone who hates all his work.
He said Elysium wasn't executed as well as the idea he had in his head. Saying both films were bad sounds like an exaggeration.
Blomkamp admitted Elysium and Chappie were bad (publicly saying this is so stupid if you want studios to take you seriously for work). I don't think he has the competence to make an Alien movie. He might if somebody else writes it.
From there the issue isn't even that this is a bad thing in itself; it's just that it pervades an entire genre, and we're getting inundated with these things. The occasional $200+ superhero beat-em-up would be fine, but we're getting close on two a year from Marvel and one a year from DC, and they're sucking the attention and money from other movies.
Nice passive aggressive one-liner you got there. I guess it's not a "dumbf**k schoolyard" without a few people ganging up on one poster. I wasn't sure whether to reply but you're practically baiting me.
Nah, it's not him.
As if awards and gross are an automatic indicator of quality.
Aight I might have to contradict myself here. His visuals are actually pretty good.
I'm not debating about who's the better director. It's about these incessant dumbf*ck schoolyard style "Batman is better than Superman" style arguments on these boards. And hyperbolic statements like "Neel Bloomhack is teh shitty directer cause he wants to retconz mah alienz 3". Or "Riply Scot is senile cause he doesn't want to make teh kind of alienz movie I wants". Or the "fact" that anyone who doesn't like the direction Scott is taking the franchise is automatically an Aliens fanboy who just wants pulse rifles and Queens.
Grow up for f*ck's sake!
His direction on the other hand is fantastic.
I'd say NB is a mediocre writer, but his visual directing skills are far above average.
Not shit. But NB is mediocre. Ridley Scott is a way better director than him. It's weird that you and lot of people in this forum don't accept that fact.
4. This kind of elementary schoolyard behavior.
Lets see, District 9... 4 Academy Award nominations including best picture and best screenplay for "Blomhack". Made back more than x7 it's production budget at the box office. Yep, shit director and that's an "objective fact".
1. Aliens 2. If you want le pulse rifle marine XD vs le buggy xeno version 2 you should just go play videogames instead.
2. Any notion of Neill Blomhack/Hackkamp ever directing an alien movie. The guy is a shit director, this is objective fact.
3. People like you making guest accounts to spam the same thing in every thread. I'm 99% certain you are Dabau.
Hopefully.
FOX is just too incompetent to make good decisions after Alien3 and even this movie isn't beyond controversy.
Whatever Disney is going to do with this franchise, they will have a plan, because they are competent.
Hopefully by burying Scott's trilogy, but unfortunately that won't happen.
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For anybody interested in space horror i would definitely recommend it, the rest can skip it.
It's way below the quality of the original Alien trilogy or The Thing, sadly not many great sci-fi horror films made out there. Pandorum is certainly one of the better ones made in the last decade, which isn't saying much. I remember liking it, it was a very watchable low budget space horror with some good moments and like you've said a fair shair of sub par moments. But that's not something Alien franchise really needs. I was really surprised to find out that Pandorum is nowadays actually better regarded by the audience than Covenant. IMDB 6.8 vs 6.5 for Covenant, Letterboxd score for both. is 3.0 and Covenant seems to be dropping fast.
Pandorums metacritic score is 28, the score i feel Covenant really deserves.
Like one of the first few scenes...
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...if I recall correctly there was a good build up to that point.
but nowhere near the quality of the original Alien films. I'd say it's on par with Covenant, but Alien film standard should be way higher than that or it's just not worth it. We can always have the AvP for the run in the mill stuff.
AI stuff and BR way better matches in my eyes. Im glad though cause i think BR2049 turned out infinitely better than Prom and AC.
Scott is such a veteran in his field, he mustve known the chances of a considerable public backlash werent exactly low, and above all else he mustve anticipated that sooner or later FOX would insist on reimplanting the Alien. And that they wont be happy with statements like "the beast is cooked" goes without saying.
Think the chance of a sequel under Ridleys helm are quite slim as of right now.
A little kitchen sink psychology at the end: I think Scott isnt very happy himself with the portrayal of the Alien in AC and is trying to distance himself from that part of the picture by coming out with these public comments on the subject. Im really getting the impression theres a lot of dissens going on between him and the studio bosses and hes getting more and more frustrated seeing his artistic vision getting burried under external influences on his artistic work.
FOX wont do another sequel with yet another Alien cameo and Ridlley prob wont be interested in another Alien focused picture and too old and resigned to compromise again here...
On the other side someone like DV is getting 150mio for a 2:45 R-rated picture and then FOX comes along imposing the Alien on Ridley again, demanding a roughly 2 hours action fest? Whyyyy would he do that-- Then again he seems to be the archetype of a workaholic so theres that.
The box office and reviews tell us it's wasn't as wasted and you'd like us to think.
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Note, I still liked the movie, just wasn't what I was hoping for.
...at the bottom of the iron works on Fury 161
you didn't like br2049? i'm not sure i'd call it hollywoodesque either, considering the ending
-Windebieste.
Are you sure about that? After Blade Runner 2049's Hollywoodesque script I'm less certain, and on top of that Brian Herbert, the man dedicated to raping his father's legacy to death, is also collaborating on the movie IIRC. I'm prepared to get disappointed.
PS Scott himself muddied the waters.
The three you disingenuously cherry picked while attempting to handwave the preceding 30+ years of the man's career were stronger than Blomkamp's three features.
He's earned the right across that career to say 'I want to continue with this and not have the waters muddied'.
I'd say 'nice try' but it really wasn't.