Just after the New Year, Neill Blomkamp of District 9 and Elysium fame revealed he’d been toying with his own Alien 5 project. Speaking about it recently he confirmed that there was some serious interest in creating the film. Recently Tom and David Woodruff (father and son), of Studio ADI and Generation Effects respectively, posted up their practical take on one of the concepts Neill posted:
Anyone who recognizes the name Woodruff will know that Tom Woodruff together with Alec Gillis, their company Studio ADI has produced the creature effects for all the Alien films since Alien 3. TheTerminatorFans spoke to David about putting the test together (including some extra photos), his opinions on moving the franchise forward and the possibility of AvP3 and Neill’s Alien 5:
“I haven’t heard anything about a 3rd installment, not even rumors. This Neill Blomkamp project is the first possibility I’ve seen or heard of of another Alien film and I’m all about it. I know the guys at Amalgamated Dynamics are pushing for something like this too. It’s time.”
Make sure you check out the entire interview!
http://www.sinfulcelluloid.com/2015/03/exclusive-new-alien-5-hicks-make-up-test-shots-and-interview/
They have new, exclusive pictures from the makeup test, but I cannot post the images on here because the site has all of the content protected to where I can't paste the images and any text from the interview.
This retcon is as bad as killing off the characters in the first place. Let's just MOVE ON!
Yes! This bringing back Hicks thing is just.....eugggghhhhh
I just wish they'd live with their decisions from the early 90's and stop trying to alter history and fix the past of movies.
Hicks died, it was shit, but I'm over it! I want to see a NEW alien movie not a fanboy's wet dream alien movie.
I wouldn't put too much stock into these shots. They are done more to show off their makeup and lighting talent. All that stuff is just bits they had lying around.
In the original script the aliens were doing something to the queen as I recall. Bathing her in blood or something. Gediman said something about them draining him of blood. The Newborn in the script was actually vampiric. Ripley was intended to be a snack for the creature, too. (There was none of that emotional bullshit like in the movie.)
I agree...still dislike that predator though but thats due to his behavior not his appearance which was back to standards more or less. ADI do need to be bit more vocal when asked to do something, they should be like "no, Aliens are supposed to be bio-mechanic, this design flies in the face of that, we need to make it more like the orginal". Of course the problem is that the studio is the one with the power sadly and they like to cut corners and be lazy, so suits are re-used...bad suits. plus I am pretty sure ADI need to eat so they would have do their job no matter what, kinda sad really because despite the films they had to work, they are very talented and the blame should not be placed on their shoulders, I keep seeing people on here going "no ADI for Alien 5" when its directors and studio that made the design choices.
I think Niell might go the bio-mechanical route...hopefully.
Is that really necessary?
For the Resurrection thing, I can accept the human dna mix explanation making them smooth, especially since it should have only been a one time thing since its limited to that particular breed but then AVP and its sequel came along and used fleshy design.
If ADI works on Alien 5 which I have no problem with, I hope they try and go back to the original giger design, either dome or ridged, perhaps both to show evolution.
If that's what Neill tells them to do, I have every confidence they can do it.
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And a load of Woodruff's in that last picture.
...I really wanna see Biehn look like this.
There was a video interview I saw with them recently where they say their reasoning for the AR look is that the alien has human DNA mixed in with it so it should appear to be more smooth. I buy that - but ti doesn't mean the design is interesting or good though.
The Queen did have Ripley's DNA inside of her... probably making her more human bitchy than usual, she was also pregnant, hell she had one bring Ripley to her to watch the birth. What the f**k was up with that? Was she just gloating in Ripley's face? Like ha ha, check out my baby maker I got from you or did the queen accept her as a fellow alien? Surely the plan was to laugh at her and then facehug... no wait, no more eggs... eat her?
ooohhhh that's right, she was not making any eggs... there was no reason to round up the silly humans as hosts. So the aliens pretty much just hung out at the hive. That's it eh.
Though of course there were those eggs in the trap where they swam into the two aliens in the flooded mess hall... that was probably all the eggs pre-baby maker. That other alien was probably just on it's way to the hive and got lost. Just like Fifield did. So perhaps the other aliens were carrying the eggs there and opening the pipes to herded them to that room. No one ever appreciates the behind the scene teamwork.
That's actually a really good point, now that you mention it... You never get the impression the survivors on the Auriga are being hunted. They just occasionally (like, twice) bump into some Aliens. What are the things doing all the rest of that time?
I mean the first one, and even Cameron's and Fincher's, had more wraith-like qualities at times, and they moved with real purpose. The Res-aliens really lack those aspects; they feel kinda aimless and it feels like they just happen to run into people now and then, even though it's probably not the directors intention. I dunno, it's just the impression I get from that movie, haha.
Oh good god that alien drool...I don't remember it being that bad in other movies. Didn't ADI twerk the aliens for convenience in A|R, such as that fin they added to the tail so it would make the swimming look more legit? Plus they were just so damn slimy in A|R. They added a lot of crap that was not needed.
They're fast when they want to -- see the underwater scene. Something that does bother me is how the Alien on the ladder does not just pull Wriess and Christie down with ease once it gets a good grip.
One thing I utterly hate is the roaring they gave to the aliens, and in all the films post Resurrection, the really silly looking lip quivering.
Aside from the context of the film itself, and opinions about texture, the mechanics of how the alien works are far superior to that of Alien, and depending on scene, Aliens. The opinion you have is about texture, and what material they used to present it.
It's not a bad animatronic at all. It's actually really well built. The point of contention here is aesthetic difference, not performance. If you've seen ADI's other work, you would realize they're capable at their job, you just disagree with how they pulled the films off, over a decade ago.
It looked like a pretty accurate description actually. Melted cheese and scurvy were especially on point.
Not the one exaggerating things here.
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literal. melted. cheese.
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it's what's for dinner.
We've all watched the same documentaries, read the same articles. The final visual thematics were in their hands, hence the eidting done post-wrap. More human than Alien is a very broad swath, and so is "make it delicate but dangerous".
You realise it was actually Jeunet who wanted a fat albino hermaphrodite with scurvy? He specifically told ADI to make the Newborn more human than Alien.
Why do you feel the need to over exaggerate.
Ah, my mistake. I did not detect the sarcasm at play.
No, it doesn't. Woodruff and Gillis much like a certain director/producer who will remain unmentioned, do quite fine when they are reigned in and told in very exacting terms what is needed and what is not. When they're allowed to have free reign on "improving" already established designs, they suck gangrenous donkey balls. A:R was their show, and we got a fat albino hermaphrodite with scurvy and Giger's design turned into literal melted cheese.
No thanks.
Really? I thought I was poking fun at ADI.
I suppose it depends on the intention behind these images. If it was done simply because they thought the concept art was cool, then Hell, I don't see anything desperate about it at all.
Also I agree wholeheartedly with regards to The Thing prequel. Film had problems no matter what, but it's a damn shame all that hard work was literally covered up.
Personally I don't doubt their abilities because I thought the half-destroyed Bishop in Alien3 was amazing, as was their practical stuff for The Thing. But if they are directed badly or left to their own interpretations, especially with something as beautifully designed as Giger's alien, then they are often deserving of the flack they might get, though sharing blame with the director.
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Alien 3 quite blatantly says they do.
And the faults with the later movies is more the actual designs rather than the execution, and we've no idea to what extent they had those dictated to them.
I know you were just being witty, but I do think that's a little belittling to Giger's work on the original Alien.
Oh yeah. I like it.
Tom Woodruff changed his Facebook profile picture.
how about making that eyeball burned with acid solid black? would be more creepy right? a cyber organic eye...."look into my eye" -APONE-