attack of the predalien

[Spectre]

Did Alien Dallas have a plasma caster?

he could have had two plasma casters, it wouldnt have mattered. the alien totally flanked him.

Do you know why? He wasn't in an open space with a weapon.

well if you think about it the confinment works both ways. if the alien had been in front of dallas he could have flamed it and it wouldnt have had any room to dodge at all.

And don't forget, Wolf in the sewer had that map thing.

i'm not arguing that scene. i'm just pointing out that the alien from Alien was smart enough to flank dallas so that he wouldnt be able to use the flamethrower...and it was less than a day old.

the avp-r aliens would have just noisily charged at him.

Ppl tend to forgetthe  national guard scene... the aliens showed vast amounts of intelligence bytaking them out one at a time.

[SM]

Yeah but are they displaying similar behaviour when attacking the Predator?

[SiL]

You barely even see the Aliens during the sequence.

[Stalker]

They take out several soldiers before even being seen...that shows a considerable amount of intelligence & cunning.

The difference between these aliens & the ones in the other films is that these ones were actually being pursued by a powerful foe, they were forced to react against a formidable killer, instead of acting upon their discretion, as in the other films. They were ravaging the town, not concentrating on The Wolf. It shows how much differently they can react when they are the hunted, & not the hunters. The alien in the power plant scene demonstrated this, as it was aware of Wolf's presence before he noticed it, & easily snuck up on him & sent him flying through the air with a whip of its tail.

Admittedly, there were some scenes where the aliens could have severely injured or even killed Wolf, but didn't. Such as when he was holding two of them up by the throat...their tails could have easily pierced his chest from such a vulnerable position. That was mainly down to script immunity.

[DoomRulz]

I don't think an Alien is tougher than a Predator.

depends on what your definition of toughness is.

aliens are much more durable then predators and are equally strong.

How do you figure?

[SM]

It shows how much differently they can react when they are the hunted, & not the hunters.

Apparently they turn into wussies.

[gases]

Good thing it was never established Wolf was an elite.

It was by degrading the aliens. However it was done.

[marrerom]

I don't think an Alien is tougher than a Predator.

depends on what your definition of toughness is.

aliens are much more durable then predators and are equally strong.

How do you figure?

do you have an example showing otherwise?

[DoomRulz]

I don't think an Alien is tougher than a Predator.

depends on what your definition of toughness is.

aliens are much more durable then predators and are equally strong.

How do you figure?

do you have an example showing otherwise?

I asked you first.

[marrerom]

I don't think an Alien is tougher than a Predator.

depends on what your definition of toughness is.

aliens are much more durable then predators and are equally strong.

How do you figure?

do you have an example showing otherwise?

I asked you first.

ok, lets see...we have alien3 where it gets covered in molten lead. i'd say that right there makes it tougher but lets continue.

in Alien it survives the vacuum of space.

in A:R they take liquid nitrogen to the face.

in AVP Grid was kicked and thrown into stone pillars...face first. yet was not affected.

in avp-r they get shot up by machine guns and survive... one even survives a hit by a plasma blast after it had already suffered pistol and machine gun fire and its still coming towards the chopper.

[vehtam]

in Alien it survives the vacuum of space.

...with open wound.

also:

Aliens - their ribchest and head ricochets the bullets from pistols.

[gangstapred]

aliens are

[DoomRulz]

I don't think an Alien is tougher than a Predator.

depends on what your definition of toughness is.

aliens are much more durable then predators and are equally strong.

How do you figure?

do you have an example showing otherwise?

I asked you first.

ok, lets see...we have alien3 where it gets covered in molten lead. i'd say that right there makes it tougher but lets continue.

in Alien it survives the vacuum of space.

in A:R they take liquid nitrogen to the face.

in AVP Grid was kicked and thrown into stone pillars...face first. yet was not affected.

in avp-r they get shot up by machine guns and survive... one even survives a hit by a plasma blast after it had already suffered pistol and machine gun fire and its still coming towards the chopper.

in Predator, it survived a full barrage of 7.67mm bullets from Mac's machinegun

in Predator, it was still alive after having a tree dropped on its head

in Predator 2, it also took liquid nitrogen to the head an body

in Predator 2, it had its arm cut off and was still standing tall

in Predator 2, it survived 10 direct hits from Harrigan's shotgun

in AvP, it got Grid's tail thru its arm and was still walking hard (yes I know the same thing happened to Ricky in AvP:R, but he could barely walk afterwards)

in AvP:R, it was knocked off a platform, fell something like 15-20 feet, had a spike go thru its leg, and still ran off

[marrerom]

in Predator, it survived a full barrage of 7.67mm bullets from Mac's machinegun

well, first off it was only hit once. in the leg. you make it sound as if it was riddled  with bullets.

in Predator, it was still alive after having a tree dropped on its head

this is true, but it didnt look like the predator was going to survive from that injury.

in Predator 2, it also took liquid nitrogen to the head an body

true, but it wasnt hit point blank like the alien in A:R was. but still its very impressive for the predator.

in Predator 2, it had its arm cut off and was still standing tall

very impressive. although we have seen aliens lose limbs and continue fighting also.

in Predator 2, it survived 10 direct hits from Harrigan's shotgun

it was not 10. some of the shots hit armor others missed. i believe the acurate hit count is 5-6 but i'm not 100% sure.

in AvP, it got Grid's tail thru its arm and was still walking hard (yes I know the same thing happened to Ricky in AvP:R, but he could barely walk afterwards)

in AvP:R, it was knocked off a platform, fell something like 15-20 feet, had a spike go thru its leg, and still ran off

again very impressive. but i feel that the evidence shows that aliens are still more durable. if you look at the alien that was hit by the plasma blast after it had been shot by machine gun and pistol fire you can see that it was back in motion seconds after being shot. it then gets put  down for good after the handgun unloads on its face.

[vehtam]

it was not 10. some of the shots hit armor others missed. i believe the acurate hit count is 5-6 but i'm not 100% sure.

and he lost his consciousness because of pain