[Spoilers] More Alien: Romulus Leaks, Including More Connections To The Original Film!

[Local Trouble]

I've just never bought that WY didn't know what they were doing by building Hadley's Hope on LV-426.

[The Cruentus]

Okay, but you still subscribe to the theory that WY built Hadley's Hope on LV-426 with ulterior motives!

Not really.

[Acid_Reign161]

https://i.imgur.com/YvcF8Re.png

It's uncanny... 😂

[The Cruentus]

I don't know. I've just never bought that WY didn't know what they were doing by building Hadley's Hope on LV-426.

The colony had been there for decades, if there was ulterior motives they would have shown it before the events of Aliens. They had decades to find the derelict.

[GrimmVision]

Okay, but you still subscribe to the theory that WY built Hadley's Hope on LV-426 with ulterior motives!

Not really.

The colony had been there for decades, if there was ulterior motives they would have shown it before the events of Aliens. They had decades to find the derelict.

You just said WY knew something was there and wanted to investigate it! Which, as previously stated by SiL and Local Trouble, doesn't make sense with the 57 year time gap! It's just a planetoid with resources!

[The Cruentus]

Yeah...in Alien, 50 plus years before Aliens.....

Whoever in the company issued the special order way back then, also likely buried it. No one knew about an Alien until Ripley's interview.

Hadley's hope was just a colony.

[Kane's other son]

"There have been people there for over twenty years and they never reported any hostile organism".

LV-426 aside, Romulus needs to come up with a good explanation for the company (seemingly) abandoning Rennaissance station without securing any samples.

[GrimmVision]

Yeah...in Alien, 50 plus years before Aliens.....

Whoever in the company issued the special order way back then, also likely buried it. No one knew about an Alien until Ripley's interview.

Hadley's hope was just a colony.

Ah, my apologies - thought you were talking about Aliens.

[GrimmVision]

"There have been people there for over twenty years and they never reported any hostile organism".

LV-426 aside, Romulus needs to come up with a good explanation for the company (seemingly) abandoning Rennaissance station without securing any samples.

Did they get the chance to abandon it, though? Or were they wiped out before anyone could get off the station? I'm assuming by the end of the movie, the Renaissance will be annihilated and the story will lean into the no evidence left behind trope all four of the original movies leave us with.

[Local Trouble]

Whoever issued SO937 knew there was a transmission coming from somewhere in that general region of space, but even the crew of the Nostromo didn't pinpoint its exact origin until they were close enough to home in on it.

[Acid_Reign161]

You keep making the mistake that "the company" knew about the Alien/the derelict's transmissions, as opposed to "someone at the company". Weyland Yutani, as a corporation, did not reroute the Nostromo to LV-426. Someone *within* Weyland Yutani, likely a greedy slimeball similar to Burke who felt they could profit from it, was responsible.

This is why nobody believes Ripley at the hearing, and they think she is nuts. This is why nobody at Hadley's Hope was ever sent to investigate until Burke heard Ripley's story and tried his luck. The company is oblivious. And they remain oblivious until after they send Colonial Marines to investigate loss of contact, and during the Sulaco's return journey, they receive flight reorder data through the network giving them firm evidence that Ripley's story is true. They then immediately mobilise with a science team, dog handler mercs, and a high profile corporate executive to oversee the operation. That is how Weyland Yutani responds when it "knows" about the alien.

[Kane's other son]

"There have been people there for over twenty years and they never reported any hostile organism".

LV-426 aside, Romulus needs to come up with a good explanation for the company (seemingly) abandoning Rennaissance station without securing any samples.

Did they get the chance to abandon it, though? Or were they wiped out before anyone could get off the station? I'm assuming by the end of the movie, the Renaissance will be annihilated and the story will lean into the no evidence left behind trope all four of the original movies leave us with.

If a modern-day conglomerate lost all contact with a large research facility or an oil rig, they would investigate, not shrug it off.

I just hope they come up with a decent explanation that's not going to make a (bigger) mess out of the old movies.

Whoever issued SO937 knew there was a transmission coming from somewhere in that general region of space, but even the crew of the Nostromo didn't pinpoint its exact origin until they were close enough to home in on it.

Regarding Special Order 937, there's a thematically far better explanation: It's a standard, automated procedure when the opportunity to retrieve samples of an extra-terrestrial organism arises.

[GrimmVision]

You keep making the mistake that "the company" knew about the Alien/the derelict's transmissions, as opposed to "someone at the company". Weyland Yutani, as a corporation, did not reroute the Nostromo to LV-426. Someone *within* Weyland Yutani, likely a greedy slimeball similar to Burke who felt they could profit from it, was responsible.

This is why nobody believes Ripley at the hearing, and they think she is nuts. This is why nobody at Hadley's Hope was ever sent to investigate until Burke heard Ripley's story and tried his luck. The company is oblivious. And they remain oblivious until after they send Colonial Marines to investigate loss of contact, and during the Sulaco's return journey, they receive flight reorder data through the network giving them firm evidence that Ripley's story is true. They then immediately mobilise with a science team, dog handler mercs, and a high profile corporate executive to oversee the operation. That is how Weyland Yutani responds when it "knows" about the alien.

I get how that could be the case, just a single person calling the shots at a time when the moment arises. But it's never stated in Alien that it's one person's actions either. In fact, it's the opposite. It's only when Aliens comes along, does the possibility of a singular person during 2122's events comes into the picture.

Is Ripley meant to be making this mistake throughout the first three films as well? We're not meant to take her trepidation with The Company as a whole at face value? She's always referred to the bad guy as "The Company", which implies multiples of people involved. Bishop II proves right up to Ripley's very end that they're liars and always have different motives.

A ton of the expanded media over the last 36 years has dealt with "The Company" trying to get this thing. So, I wouldn't say that a single person at a time calling the shots is 100 percent the truth either.

[Acid_Reign161]

You keep making the mistake that "the company" knew about the Alien/the derelict's transmissions, as opposed to "someone at the company". Weyland Yutani, as a corporation, did not reroute the Nostromo to LV-426. Someone *within* Weyland Yutani, likely a greedy slimeball similar to Burke who felt they could profit from it, was responsible.

This is why nobody believes Ripley at the hearing, and they think she is nuts. This is why nobody at Hadley's Hope was ever sent to investigate until Burke heard Ripley's story and tried his luck. The company is oblivious. And they remain oblivious until after they send Colonial Marines to investigate loss of contact, and during the Sulaco's return journey, they receive flight reorder data through the network giving them firm evidence that Ripley's story is true. They then immediately mobilise with a science team, dog handler mercs, and a high profile corporate executive to oversee the operation. That is how Weyland Yutani responds when it "knows" about the alien.

I get how that could be the case, just a single person calling the shots at a time when the moment arises. But it's never stated in Alien that it's one person's actions either. In fact, it's the opposite. It's only when Aliens comes along, does the possibility of a singular person during 2122's events comes into the picture.

Is Ripley meant to be making this mistake throughout the first three films as well? We're not meant to take her trepidation with The Company as a whole at face value? She's always referred to the bad guy as, "The Company", which implies multiples of people involved. Bishop II proves right up to Ripley's very end that they're liars and always have different motives.

A ton of the expanded media over the last 36 years has dealt with "The Company" trying to get this thing, not singular persons. So, I wouldn't say that a single person at a time calling the shots is 100 percent the truth either.

Then why leave the derelict untouched for 57 years? If you know where it as as you've already sent a ship there and declared crew expendable, why terraform the planet, set up a colony, and do nothing? Yet upon learning about a facehugger on board the sulaco immediately deploy a team? Every *logical* assumption point to the fact that they didn't know. Who else would Ripley blame? See sees a directive sent to science officer eyes only. So she assumes it's the company. Same as Hadley's Hope; they receive orders from Burke so follow what they take as 'company orders'.

[The Cruentus]

Ripley would logically be biased against the company after her experiences.

As for the 36 years, that is mostly non-canon and some folks did have a problem with whole mustache twirling villian the company gets portrayed as in the EU.