Quote from: Master on Aug 28, 2014, 04:43:31 PM
That`s their whole perpous. To make money. That`s why they never admitt AvP-r was wrong f**king choice.
Fair enough and true enough!
Quote from: Master on Aug 28, 2014, 04:43:31 PM
You know what. Predator films are made. More or less connected, better or worse but they are. Alien films, well that`s whole different story. They are stuck with Ripley and are not sure to make another one with Sigourney or not. If reboot happens, Alien is first not Predator. Especially that Prometheus didn`t worked as they wanted to.
The only franchise as far as I know which doesn't have a string of continuity would be the Leprechaun franchise. Sure, the movies are considered sequels but they don't even have a connection to each other, or even the first movie. The Predator movies on the other hand, have a very thin continuity string.. And this is where canon debates come in because some view the AvP movies as being either canon or non-canon, or alternative canon. It depends on who you ask.
As for Alien, there is definitely a heavy continuity string there. Whether or not Fox wants to do an Alien movie is something up for discussion but it's clear that Weaver wants to finish the story, though with a potential delay on Prometheus 2 and no telling when Prometheus 3 is going to come out, by the time Alien 5 is in production, Weaver will be too old. Unless you're one of those folks who think Weaver isn't too old to be Ripley but if you ask me, I think the Alien franchise is done.
...And Prometheus didn't work? Last I recall, a lot of people fawned over the movie and fangasmed cause it was Ridley Scott. However I also know that part of the Alien fandom outright hates the movie. So..
Quote from: Master on Aug 28, 2014, 04:43:31 PM
They wanted more gore in their AvP? They did get it. They wanted more Space Jockey and Ridley? They did get it. The effects are different matter whatsoever.
This is most definitely true, I suppose. I do remember the gore hounds being the most vocal as far as AvP-R was concerned. As far as Prometheus is concerned... Maybe Ridley Scott, I can see Fox hearing fans about him but the Space Jockey? Well.. we were supposed to get a direct Alien prequel but.. we got an indirect one with Prometheus.
Quote from: Master on Aug 28, 2014, 04:43:31 PM
It`s like saying MCU is geting separated with Iron Man 3 and co. It`s not. Next AvP film will happen and if it`s in space, Jockeys and Super Predators are there.
If Engineers and Super Predators are going to be in Alien vs Predator 3, I.. would not be very pleased. PREDATORS already made my faith in the franchise waver. I just hope Shane Black's movie doesn't further the stupid which PREDATORS brought.. I mean Shane has apparently done some good work, it's more Fred Dekker I'm iffy about since Dekker did do Robocop 3.
Quote from: Master on Aug 28, 2014, 04:43:31 PM
You know I don`t.
I figured you didn't, but I just wanted to throw that out there incase someone else wanted to chime in on that.
Quote from: Master on Aug 28, 2014, 04:43:31 PM
But why? They don`t contradict each other.
Prometheus has some contradictions with AvP. Namely of course the Weyland Corp timeline which suggests that Peter had formed Weyland Corp somewhere in the 2010s, where as AvP had suggested that Charles had founded Weyland Industries in 1973. Also, several people on this forum have pointed out that there are legal differences between an Industry and Corporation. Of course, one could make the argument that viral marketing which is written in-universe was all a part of the Fox Marketing ploy can and should be ignored, the fact that it was written in universe makes it very hard to ignore.
You could also argue that the stories of the films don't contradict each other but again it goes back to the point above. I'm not getting into a debate, but I'm just speaking from a neutral point of view and saying what others have already said.
Quote from: Master on Aug 28, 2014, 04:43:31 PM
The thing is water is quite shallow out there.
I did not know that.