[SPOILERS] So Covenant confirms that AvP and AvPR are not canon films.

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[SPOILERS] So Covenant confirms that AvP and AvPR are not canon films. (Read 92,435 times)

Local Trouble

Quote from: Huggs on Oct 06, 2019, 02:51:39 AM
I respect it too much to let it escape.

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SM

Quote from: Local Trouble on Oct 06, 2019, 08:09:29 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Oct 06, 2019, 02:51:39 AM
I respect it too much to let it escape.

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It's... it's glorious...

Huggs

Huggs

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Quote from: Local Trouble on Oct 06, 2019, 08:09:29 AM
Quote from: Huggs on Oct 06, 2019, 02:51:39 AM
I respect it too much to let it escape.

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I merely admire its purity.

Unclouded by conscious, remorse, or delusions of morality.  :laugh:

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When it gets close enough, I'm going to cocoon it to the walls and force it to watch the AC of Alien 3 until it admits it's the best film of the trilogy.
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The Old One

The Old One

#528
Imagine using that function to do anything other that stop receiving PMs from certain people. Lmao

Local Trouble

Quote from: Huggs on Oct 06, 2019, 03:48:58 PM
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When it gets close enough, I'm going to cocoon it to the walls and force it to watch the AC of Alien 3 until it admits it's the best film of the trilogy.
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Roll over.  Play dead.  Heel?

You can't teach an SMorph tricks.

Xenomrph

Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Oct 06, 2019, 05:32:54 PM
Imagine using that function to do anything other that stop receiving PMs from certain people. Lmao
What do you mean?

OmegaZilla

OmegaZilla

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Quote from: Xenomrph on Oct 05, 2019, 03:47:34 PM
A team of researchers find a heretofore unknown ancient structure hidden in Antarctica, built by ancient extraterrestrials who used and controlled amorphous black creatures as slave labor who ultimately rebel and murder the shit out of them.

Like, if it wasn't deliberate then it is one hell of an uncanny coincidence.

And even if 'Prometheus' wasn't meant to be an overt adaptation of AtMoM, it was close enough that Guillermo del Toro's AtMoM project got scrapped because of it.
I'm aware of everything you're saying.

ALL the AtMoM-like elements come from Alien script drafts, since O'Bannon was inspired by Lovecraft front and center. The AvP comic took from those drafts, not AtMoM specifically, and so did the film because it was adapting the comic. Prometheus took from the drafts as well, remixing elements to come up with its plot. Neither AvP nor Prometheus had a direct intention to retell AtMoM. Just an indirect echo.

The Old One

The Old One

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Yeah, I'd enjoy a direct adaptation by Alien though.

Xenomrph

Quote from: Omegamorph on Oct 07, 2019, 01:45:41 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Oct 05, 2019, 03:47:34 PM
A team of researchers find a heretofore unknown ancient structure hidden in Antarctica, built by ancient extraterrestrials who used and controlled amorphous black creatures as slave labor who ultimately rebel and murder the shit out of them.

Like, if it wasn't deliberate then it is one hell of an uncanny coincidence.

And even if 'Prometheus' wasn't meant to be an overt adaptation of AtMoM, it was close enough that Guillermo del Toro's AtMoM project got scrapped because of it.
I'm aware of everything you're saying.

ALL the AtMoM-like elements come from Alien script drafts, since O'Bannon was inspired by Lovecraft front and center. The AvP comic took from those drafts, not AtMoM specifically, and so did the film because it was adapting the comic. Prometheus took from the drafts as well, remixing elements to come up with its plot. Neither AvP nor Prometheus had a direct intention to retell AtMoM. Just an indirect echo.
Like I said, it's one hell of an uncanny coincidence that everything fell into place so accurately to AtMoM (twice!), to the point that an actual AtMoM adaptation got canceled because of Prometheus.

The Old One

The Old One

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"When you tear out a man's tongue, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say."

Huggs

Quote from: Fiendishly Inventive on Oct 08, 2019, 11:46:14 PM
"When you tear out a man's tongue, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say."

Either that or " I have the strength to tear out a man's tongue, so don't mess with me".  ;)

The Old One

The Old One

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Hahahaha. Lmao, I hope not.

Immortan Jonesy

Immortan Jonesy

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 :laugh:

Quote from: Xenomrph on Oct 07, 2019, 04:09:23 PM
Quote from: Omegamorph on Oct 07, 2019, 01:45:41 PM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Oct 05, 2019, 03:47:34 PM
A team of researchers find a heretofore unknown ancient structure hidden in Antarctica, built by ancient extraterrestrials who used and controlled amorphous black creatures as slave labor who ultimately rebel and murder the shit out of them.

Like, if it wasn't deliberate then it is one hell of an uncanny coincidence.

And even if 'Prometheus' wasn't meant to be an overt adaptation of AtMoM, it was close enough that Guillermo del Toro's AtMoM project got scrapped because of it.
I'm aware of everything you're saying.

ALL the AtMoM-like elements come from Alien script drafts, since O'Bannon was inspired by Lovecraft front and center. The AvP comic took from those drafts, not AtMoM specifically, and so did the film because it was adapting the comic. Prometheus took from the drafts as well, remixing elements to come up with its plot. Neither AvP nor Prometheus had a direct intention to retell AtMoM. Just an indirect echo.
Like I said, it's one hell of an uncanny coincidence that everything fell into place so accurately to AtMoM (twice!), to the point that an actual AtMoM adaptation got canceled because of Prometheus.

That's Del Toro's opinion, but it doesn't make him right. The similarities are superficial at best. That said, cosmic horror is not just tentacle porn and epic adventures in frozen landscapes. Alien is cosmic horror though.

SM

According to Del Toro ATMOM got canned because he wanted to make a very expensive R-rated movie and the studio said no.

Immortan Jonesy

Quote from: SM on Oct 09, 2019, 02:32:32 AM
According to Del Toro ATMOM got canned because he wanted to make a very expensive R-rated movie and the studio said no.

I've learned something today. Seriously, I thought Prometheus was guilty for that one.  :laugh:

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