QuoteLol diminishing returns. Alien and Aliens were two of the top ten grossing films in their respective years, and had 9 Oscar nominations total. Both while being R-rated horror films.
And so were Friday The 13th, Halloween and Nightmare On Elm Street (Minus the Oscars) and look what happened to them.
QuoteYes, Weaver wanted her to die. And that was dumb. Youth has its poor decisions.
No, there's nothing dumb about it the direction they took was a perfectly viable and good one, the only problem here is
you the problem isn't the idea it's you as you aren't happy with the perfectly viable direction they took.
QuoteBut the studio wanted to make a cheap film
Yes, because we all know $50M is cheap film money.
No, it's not.
Quotecash in on the appeal of the first 2 films.
...Isn't every sequel in some way a cash-in on the previous film? that's the definition right? I mean this film is going to be a cash in on Aliens after all because it's hitchhiking off Aliens.
QuoteNow both the studio and Weaver, recognize the value of the franchise from a dollars and sense perspective, but also from a story perspective.
Umn...umn..I think the studio and Weaver recognized all that from the beginning that's why you know Fox green lit Aliens, licensed the property to DarkHorse, made several Alien 3 Game Tie Ins, green lit Alien 3, constantly harassed Fincher all the way through the production...
I'm sorry what?! What?! WHAT?!
QuoteThe whole beginning of Alien 3 is as if someone were embarrasingly setting a stage. They're like, ok first this happened, then this happened, still with us? Oh, and this kinda happened, whew. Ok, now that we got the play pretend out of the way, here's our story. The first 10 minutes were just 1 half-baked clustertruck after another.
To be fair you also have to remember the film had a
very troubled production.
QuoteIf you want a franchise with longevity, don't kill off the main character(s).
Yes, who cares about artistic integrity who cares about making a actually good product we gotta keep dragging these characters and actors back and through increasingly ridiculous scenarios.
Now while I would tend to agree with you on the idea of killing main characters most of the time as not done correctly it makes the adventure seem rather pointless and with all their struggles being in vain (Ex: See Hell On Wheels original fate for the Cullen character)
But like I already said before it
all depends on execution,n Ripley's death was done well she managed to finally find peace, deny Wayland the Xenos and destroy the last of The Derelict Xenos thus avenging everybody that died and putting a end to that Xeno threat.
And the things I just said are all things that Weaver said to justify killing off Ripley among other things not mentioned.
QuoteYou know, exploring a mystery is not the same as solving it. This is where Prometheus excelled. Every question just led to more questions. This could also have been the subject of Aliens 2.0.
That's mainly the fault of the script and all.
QuoteWhoever didn't tell Sigourney to shut up and let us handle the story, and back up an extra dump truck of money into her driveway, was being financially irresponsible.
Yes, let's blow up the whole film's budget to force somebody who didn't want to be a part of the movie even after the first dump truck of money unless it went in that direction even more money! that'll clearly solve everything who cares if it means the budget must be slashed or if she's just phoning it in because she's not interested we got R I P L E Y!!!
The Janitors don't need to be paid for another two years after all.
QuoteThey wasted time and money because they couldn't decide on a story, hence the whole script not being finished and sets never being used situations.
"of little worth because achieved in a discreditable way requiring little effort."
If they went through all the effort of trying to find the right script and unable to settle on the right idea and spending millions of dollars in hiring script writers and than building rather expensive sets and than not using them because they didn't fit the idea...I have to ask does that fit the definition?