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Prey Creature Designer Talks Feral Predator’s Anatomy & Design Philosophy

With Prey now available to watch on Hulu, we’re now entering that juicy post-release period where the people behind the making of the film are starting to share behind-the-scenes imagery and commentary on what went into making Prey!

Michael Vincent, the concept artist responsible for Feral Predator’s creature and mask design, has taken to Twitter to share a really interesting thread on why Feral looks the way he does!

Genetic isolation with different environmental pressures yields a variant of yautja… adapted to a drier climate… thinner, waxier dreads, thicker oral tissue, & scalier skin for moisture retention, favors crushing bite for different diet…

Breathes primarily through spiracles in the casque (not those 2 big cavities, those are heat sensitive “pits”!), an adaptation for a less jungly, less oxygenated atmosphere…

Thicker brow houses heat sensitive organs, which the mask is designed to interface with… thinner casque loses less water…

Bone has a special cultural significance to the Feral subspecies… not only their armor but as a diet staple… a careful look at the mouth reveals molars outfitted for osteophagy…

Naturally Michael also fielded various questions on the design process that went into Feral! When a fan commented that he took Feral as being a more primitive version of the Predator, Michael stated that while the design process included that kind of exploration, it wasn’t intended as being present in the finished design.

Something else that Michael was asked about was the often seen complaint post-Predator 2 of why the mandibles don’t seem to fully close.

Michael was also asked about how the Predator is able to see with the bone obscuring where we would usually find the visor on the Predator mask.

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  1. dnicholson277
    Really not a fan of the Feral mask less look in art or not obscured by the shadows in the film.

    Feels like they didn't want to get stuck should the law suit go against Disney so changed enough to get away with it.

    I'd rather Feral kept his mask on the entire movie.
  2. Marauder
    Quote from: Master on Feb 06, 2023, 08:23:24 PMhttps://i.imgur.com/UqWj2bu.jpeg
    If only we were lucky :'(


    This is awesome. Really interesting to see what could have been. Proof that there's a way of doing different looking predators from other parts of their world/other worlds whilst retaining that iconography.

    Have to say that, although I didn't like Feral's face at first, I'm quite indifferent to it now (though, as a huge fan, indifference is a disappointing reaction to have I suppose ;D ).


  3. Sabres21768
    Everyone says that ONLY because of what we did get.
    If this had been the original design, people would have been crying about how different it is from the original Jungle Hunter.
    Fans are never happy.
  4. SiL
    I like that that's still a drastic redesign while being immediately recognisable as a Predator. Keep the red tones, mask, and thin dreads from the movie, they were fine, but those forms and the eyes look like a Predator.
  5. PAS Spinelli
    The scene with the ash and the CG hand is the best CG in the movie imo, could barely tell it was CG, only after someone pointed it out it became obvious, and even then it was still hard to notice it
  6. SiL
    Quote from: BlueMarsalis79 on Oct 21, 2022, 07:22:38 AMand look at the mandibles and the hand replacement shot, some of it is obviously influenced by a "this does not look that great" reaction assuredly.

    Turns out the practical hands were always placeholder.

    From the Stan Winston Studio article:

    QuoteWhen we do a finger cup with an extension, we lose the last joint. People notice that. So that was always a plan, we're gonna do a digital hand."
  7. TC

    Some clarification: When I said, "To me, the practical latex version doesn't look more realistic than the CG one," I wasn't talking about the Predator's depiction throughout the entire movie, I was just referring to the two before and after photos shown in the earlier post.

    TC
  8. SiL
    Surely if you're going to replace the face digitally and know it's probably the most important thing you maybe let go of things like "I really need these calf muscles to twitch".

    Swings back to:

    QuoteCGI has so empowered filmmakers to make everything look like how they want it that they lose sight of the forest for the trees and waste significant time and money

    I'll need to listen to all the interviews.
  9. BlueMarsalis79
    I believe Studio ADI (AVPG interview I think, although I am not completely certain) spoke about the K-Y Jelly drying so fast it made things arduous, and look at the mandibles and the hand replacement shot, some of it is obviously influenced by a "this does not look that great" reaction assuredly.

    They simply did not have the time to get the digital up to par in terms of believability and consistency, something Dan Trachtenberg outright admitted in the AVPG interview that the face needed more work but they had no more time for further refinement.
  10. SiL
    So slap some KY on Feral on location and get that glossy sheen.

    Wolf used silicone skin and it 100% did not help him look more realistic unfortunately.

    QuoteLeaving it to post means you get to review what's been shot and only allocate resources according to what remains in your schedule and funds
    Normally, yes -- but they had a fully functioning animatronic on-set that they digitally repainted. That's just double-handling and fairly wasteful spending. And from the looks of it that was planned, not a "oh woops, it looks bad, better fix it" revelation.

    EDIT

    Actually, no, it's not really true. You usually allocate the funds to the post-production at the outset. At the beginning of production you break down the script, establish your effects shots, and even prioritise them according to your budget. If you're getting to post production and saying "OK, how much do we have left to spend on putting the monster in our monster movie?", you've done something horribly wrong.
  11. TC
    To me, the practical latex version doesn't look more realistic than the CG one. (Although I'm only looking at them on my crappy phone.) And I actually prefer the sweaty shine they put on the CG skin over the dry, matte, dusty look of the latex. There's a reason why, for years, monsters relied on slathering gobs of KY-jelley to the latex skin to disguise the dry rubber look. Everything from Alien to The Thing, American Werewolf in London, and virtually every other monster from the 80s an 90s. They could have gone for silicon which has a more flesh-like realism but presumably the fragility of that material was a no-go for the rigours of location shooting out in the woods and the demands of physical action and stunts.

    But really, the main reason for choosing the CG option is budgetary. It means you can push the art and craft effort into post. Doing it practically means committing budget and resources up-front. Leaving it to post means you get to review what's been shot and only allocate resources according to what remains in your schedule and funds. And you get start with the 'Must Do' shots and work your way to the 'Would Be Nice To Improve If We Still Have Money And Time' shots.

    TC
  12. SiL
    I don't know, I feel there's an interesting discussion to be had about how CGI has so empowered filmmakers to make everything look like how they want it that they lose sight of the forest for the trees and waste significant time and money on shit that ultimately hurts the end product.

    Like sure, the CGI model has more "realistic" shading and refraction and etc. etc. for skin than latex does. And yeah, we get to see all the little motions and muscle twitches that a rubber animatronic just can't quite nail. But does any of that add anything meaningful to the final image? No.
  13. RidgeTop
    Quote from: Kradan on Oct 03, 2022, 05:12:23 AM
    Quote from: Master Chief on Oct 03, 2022, 05:02:53 AM
    Quote from: SiL on Sep 26, 2022, 09:34:21 PMGetting back on thread, I know they've been posted before but I wish they'd used the LEDs in the mask at least once in the movie, it's a nice touch.

    http://www.instagram.com/p/Ci5m7xlvyu5/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
    They used it briefly. The LEDs can be seen through the blood right after he killed the bear.

    Well, damn, I guess I need to watch that scene again

    Looking at that now, I believe that's just the orange glow of the hex-grid cloak on the fritz. You can see the pattern, and it doesn't match the placement of the red LEDs in the behind the scenes pics. The light trails are over Feral's body under the blood as well.
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