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“The Dream Always Begins In The Dark,” Reviewing Alien: Bloodlines & Aliens: Aftermath – AvP Galaxy Podcast #135

We have just uploaded the 135th episode of the Alien vs. Predator Galaxy Podcast (right-click and save as to download)! Corporal Hicks, RidgeTop, VoodooMagic and Xenomorphine are back to discuss Marvel’s first forays into Alien comic, with the recently completed first arc of their ongoing series, Aliens: Bloodlines, and the 35th anniversary one-shot Aliens: Aftermath.

 "The Dream Always Begins In The Dark," Reviewing Alien: Bloodlines & Aliens: Aftermath – AvP Galaxy Podcast #135

We’re talking Marvel’s new Alien continuity, the Alpha Alien, the art controversy, returning to Hadley’s Hope, ghost Aliens and plenty more!

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  1. TilotnyWorshiper28
    its the supply chain issues   due to the pandemic .  a lot of the dates get shuffled about  crimson reign #2 and Star Wars #21 just got pushed to February  and doctor aphra is taking a month off in February . I'm sure theres other delays well see in the solicitations for February 
  2. Engineer
    They’re either slowing down the rate at which they’re pumping them out…

    … or they’re running into publishing/distribution delays related to the pandemic…

    Neither would surprise me. Are there similar delays with their other comics (i.e., spider-man) or is it just Alien?
  3. Nukiemorph
    So the next issue comes out in March? That's a four month gap. Is this normal for Marvel lately?

    I was expecting harsh deadlines & a strict monthly output on which we could blame the bad art...
  4. Bughuntwilson
    issue 8 was good  art was bad as always

    like the touches on the spinners religion (the song when they die/mouring the dead , what the church is called etc )
    ending of the issue was kinda predictable
    I know people have different taste and all but how can you call a action figure and movie stillls with a filter over them and call it art

    issue 8 was good  art was bad as always

    like the touches on the spinners religion (the song when they die/mouring the dead , what the church is called etc )
    ending of the issue was kinda predictable
    Dang I misread your sentence you was saying the story was good I don't know the author acts like a ass and the plot has some plot holes so big you can fall through them
  5. Engineer
    If everything we have learned holds true, all I can say is, next year is generally shaping up to be a very fun year. :)
    But how soon into next year I thought it would be early next year so I would thought there will be a trailer coming out soon
    I’m assuming this is all related to the Hulu series? I think 2022 is when they start filming… it’ll be a while before any trailers are shown. Lot of work to do first with filming, editing, scoring, visual effects etc. before a trailer will be ready…

    Maybe they'll cast Larroca in a major role.

    Lmfao
  6. Local Trouble
    If everything we have learned holds true, all I can say is, next year is generally shaping up to be a very fun year. :)
    But how soon into next year I thought it would be early next year so I would thought there will be a trailer coming out soon
    I’m assuming this is all related to the Hulu series? I think 2022 is when they start filming… it’ll be a while before any trailers are shown. Lot of work to do first with filming, editing, scoring, visual effects etc. before a trailer will be ready…

    Maybe they'll cast Larroca in a major role.
  7. Engineer
    If everything we have learned holds true, all I can say is, next year is generally shaping up to be a very fun year. :)
    But how soon into next year I thought it would be early next year so I would thought there will be a trailer coming out soon
    I’m assuming this is all related to the Hulu series? I think 2022 is when they start filming… it’ll be a while before any trailers are shown. Lot of work to do first with filming, editing, scoring, visual effects etc. before a trailer will be ready…
  8. Bughuntwilson
    Haven't read yesterday's issue yet but just caught this on Twitter.

    https://twitter.com/Engineer_LV426/status/1458793522652348416

    I am so incredibly sick of this.

    What you except it larroca the artist that trace action figure toys and throws a filter over them  and calls it art

    Alright i gotta ask a question regarding marvel predator comic.Does anybody know what's up with it I had a conversation with somebody on the team and from the sound of it he didn't even know what was up with it.To tell you the truth u wound be surprised if they said it wasn't coming out at all the alien comic trailer was released six months before it's release date so I would expected the same for predator
  9. Russ840
    Issue 8 was ok.

    I’m interested (still, somehow) in where things are going but it is slow and super decompressed.

    As per the norm with this title. The art is completely stagnant, flat, spectacularly dull apart from the colouring.

    What can I say. I want more of this but it’s bittersweet because it’s such an eye sore.
  10. Kimarhi
    I like the HS scale better simply because the cutoff from being failing to subpar is higher, and thus to truly be great you must aim higher as well.





    ..............You could be like the US Army where you are graded on the ten point scale for actual academics, but anything below a 70 is a failing grade.  THEN if you do fail and retake the test if you pass the retest with a 100, you only get a 70 percent. 

    I think this is why I am somewhat harsh in reviews.  Prometheus and Resurrection for example.  I hate them, but as movies I'd rate both at probably a 55-60.  But that is failing to me in every standard I use to measure. 

    As for this series.  Bought the TPB.  It is EXACTLY the type of comic I would think a superhero comic book publisher would make in the alien verse.  I did like them bringing in some elements from Resurrection into the story, and it is interesting that they are already trying to do their future setup on a story arc villain, but it feels VERY Marvelish in its presentation with not just the artwork where everybody looks like the same dude over and over again, but that they are TRYING to setup a future villain. 





  11. [cancerblack]
    I don’t get the over-thinking/needless complicating of the 1-10 scale, or equating it to educational grades.

    1 is shit, 10 is excellent, anything in between is a sliding scale. I don’t see how or why anyone would make it more complicated than that.

    It's one of those things where so many people do something wrong that doing it right is meaningless because nobody will understand it correctly.
  12. HuDaFuK
    I don’t get the over-thinking/needless complicating of the 1-10 scale, or equating it to educational grades.

    1 is shit, 10 is excellent, anything in between is a sliding scale. I don’t see how or why anyone would make it more complicated than that.
  13. Kimarhi
    When I was in HS we had harder scale than when I was in college.  In college it was the ten point scale, in HS it was made up bullshit.

    100-93 A
    85-92 B
    84-75-C
    74-65-D
    64 and below F.

    It is weird that when I do use the 100 point scale, I use my HS grading scale though, and not the college ten point scale.
  14. XenoHunter99
    The podcast was fun. No one was that enthused with the series.

    Re: Rating scales: I look at those as simple scale with 1 being terrible and 10 being impossibly great! 5 is sort of OK, mediocre, whatever.

    Re: Artwork: I agree most people don't care as long as it looks good. They're not plugged into the theft of fanart (which studio reps too often treat as their property) or evidence of extensive tracing. I do have a few thoughts about it. First, drawing a comic is no trivial undertaking. A 32 page book has something like 500 figure drawings in it - pictures of the characters doing whatever in the book. As a subject, the Alien - any sort of xenomorph - is a bit demanding. Yes, one can abstract it down to simplicity; but people respond to detail. And detail takes time.

    My preference is for actual fresh drawing compared to tracing. The fresh drawing may have more energy and better flow (though there are plenty of stiff drawings floating around). But in illustration, most any means of getting the picture done is considered ok. Projection, tracing, digital paint-over, you name it might be considered ok, depending on the circumstance. And there is the issue of perceived quality. How well did the artist capture a character's likeness? How do the colors look? And so on.

    It's not a situation where the characters are intentionally drawn in a generic way so that readers can more easily imagine themselves as those characters. There are still stylized works; but these days, people like the characters to really look like the characters in every frame. And achieving that likeness by whatever means makes the comic that much more seductive. And in an Alien comic, the creature is an important character.
  15. Voodoo Magic
    Alternatively, not rating things numerically or with stars but instead merely stating your opinion on a particular piece of work also does the job without any weird preconceived baggage that comes along with a particular "rating."  ;)

    Ah, yes, Occam's Razor - the simplest solution is usually the best. :laugh:

    But alas, I digrsss. RidgeTop and I alone are proof that people in the U.S. could & do take scoring a different way than someone in the U.K. for instance. We have for years. I think sites like IGN does a good job avoiding that confusion with labels next to their scores. :)
  16. Nightmare Asylum
    Alternatively, not rating things numerically or with stars but instead merely stating your opinion on a particular piece of work also does the job without any weird preconceived baggage that comes along with a particular "rating."  ;)
  17. Voodoo Magic
    And with 5 stars (how we used to do things around here), if you're going with half stars, it's really just another 10 scale system.

    Yep

    Yeah, you're going to have the same differences described with a 5 point or 10 point scale.

    Maybe we should go to 7 point system!  :laugh:

    https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/greensboro.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/a/30/a30ca5e0-b13f-5075-8eef-23e138c7aee8/54af95148d183.image.jpg

    Just look at Rotten Tomatoes as the way the U.S. looks at things. Anything under 60% or under 6/10 is a failure and represents just degrees of failure. Because basically... if your product gets as many things wrong as it does right... it does not pass muster.

    RT is really more of a two point system, fresh and rotten. They do their own thing.

    Sure, the individual critic determines if their review results in a recommend or not recommend, fresh or rotten, based on where they individually determine that fail line is (or RT will determine that for them if left undetermined)...

    ...but the Rotten Tomatoes side, they are an aggregator of reviews, of recommends and not-recommends from critics, that is percentage based. And 60% or 6/10 is their pass/fail line, their fresh or rotten decider, not 50%.  If it falls below that 60%, it's all degrees of failure/rotten. Now mainting 75% or higher gets you that certified fresh. We get excited to see a movie in that 90% range, and we're more doubtful of a film that has 10% positive than 45%.

    So it's all about that pass/fail line. And Grading/Rating is synonymous to so many people. Do I think often it's regional, and often always going to be perceived differently based on where you live and your educational system? Sure. Here in the US, 5 out of 10, half wrong / half right equals failure. It seems in the UK, not so much.

    https://www.nairaland.com/attachments/4279704_tmp4835screenshot20150802at105909am2067049463_png24992158848d8f58db2ba0f57fe2a755

    Probably the best way to overcome all this where the podcast is concerned is attach a word to every grading number "9 = Excellent" spoken in every podcast, so no matter what perspective someone is coming from region based or not, they know exactly what someone means. Or drop the number entirely, considering it's coming from a spoken media. A simple fix I think.
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