Alien: Romulus Catch-All Thread

[The Cruentus]

Ah that's right three. If it needed coolant because the maximum capacity then I guess its a fair point to say it contributed to their deaths.

[SiL]

Ah that's right three. If it needed coolant because the maximum capacity then I guess its a fair point to say it contributed to their deaths.

Max capacity was 2. 3 was wishful thinking.

It's not really dumb to only have one shuttle, though. Lifeboats in space are a nice idea but not really practical (as the franchise shows, repeatedly -- both Aliens and Alien3 start with lifeboats failing).

The Nostromo has a shuttle for shuttling, and the crew needed to abandon ship in or near port, they all could've fit into the shuttle to get off the ship. There are two cryotubes as a kind of maybe last ditch effort to preserve some of the crew in an extreme, extreme situation. But abandoning ship in deep space really doesn't seem like something anyone seriously expects to do, and even having cryotubes on the shuttle seems more like a morale thing than a practical consideration.

[Local Trouble]

I agree.  That's why I don't think it was designed to be a lifeboat for the entire crew of its mothership, just the standard crew of the shuttle if it were to be damaged AFTER separation.

I'm guessing that the Nostromo probably wasn't designed to be scuttled under such dire circumstances.  That is, without two working shuttles and outside of said shuttles' normal operating range.

I'm assuming that it wasn't designed to be scuttled several weeks from rescue, but rather a relatively short shuttle-ride away from a safe port.

I'm talking about within the Sol or some other inhabited system.  The Nostromo's detonation sure looked violent and scary, but Ripley couldn't have been very far away from it at the time either.  I imagine, under normal circumstances, they'd probably scuttle it a few thousand klicks away from anything or anyone just to be safe, but that's nothing in astronomical terms.

[SiL]

Usually they're asleep in hyperspace so really if something goes catastrophically wrong out there they'd just die.

[Local Trouble]

Yeah.  If the Nostromo had the Sulaco's ability to drop its cryotubes into EEVs, the crew could have just used that method to get away.

And I still think the Sulaco's EEVs were never designed to land, just drift in space and transmit a distress beacon while keeping its passengers in hypersleep.

[razeak]

Not leaving a custodial staff on board the Sulaco's by far the dumbest thing in Aliens, and it's the most inexcusable because it had to happen for the overall plot.

you may be underestimating the stupidity of decision makers here. There are so many real world examples of stupid policies that it's not remotely surprising to me that something so obvious to us is a glaring logical issue for deep space military units. That's not even considering bean counters reducing costs. It's probably one of the most realistic representations in the series. I mean.......look how many bad things had to happen for the Titanic to hit that iceberg at exactly that moment

[Feeds On Minds]

It's almost as if Aliens is poorly written 80's action shlock, but with ground breaking special effects...

It's not poorly written at all.

The whole plot's down to them being stuck on Acheron, if they had a logical operation with a custodian on the Sulaco or several, nothing's stopping them from just evacuating.

True, but if the Nostromo had more lifeboats, a lot more survivors would've made it off. Parker and Lambert would've lived. Mistakes and incompetence are a trademark of the universe by now.

Parker and Lambert didn't die because of there being limited life-boats. The shuttle had enough room for four people

Ripley explicitly says it can't take 4. Even 3 is pushing capacity, hence needing the coolant.

None of that coolant Parker and Lambert were collecting made it onto the lifeboat, so how did Ripley survive for 57 years?
Another Aliens writing blunder.

[Local Trouble]

There were only two cryotubes on the shuttle.  The coolant was to keep the air support system running for whomever drew the short straw and had to stay awake and breathe.

Ripley no longer needed it after Lambert and Parker died.

[SiL]

I'm amazed how many people miss that detail.

[Local Trouble]

SM should make a video about common misconceptions.

[Kradan]

It's almost as if Aliens is poorly written 80's action shlock, but with ground breaking special effects...

    

GTFO

[Slutty Badger]

I'm amazed how many people miss that detail.

I never have.

[Highland]

Nah Aliens is top 10 sci fi all time. You can pick holes in anything now. I feel like the earlier movies dramas are microscopic compared to nowadays movies, which is even more impressive considering how much harder it was to film all this stuff back then.

I find it funny though that the action aspect of Aliens always gets mildly critisised, yet it's arguably the most unique film in the entire series (including prom and covenant)

It's only the games and comics that focus more on the marine side of things.

[SiL]

Any movie is shit if you let it.

[BigDaddyJohn]

It's almost as if Aliens is poorly written 80's action shlock, but with ground breaking special effects...

It's not poorly written at all.

The whole plot's down to them being stuck on Acheron, if they had a logical operation with a custodian on the Sulaco or several, nothing's stopping them from just evacuating.

True, but if the Nostromo had more lifeboats, a lot more survivors would've made it off. Parker and Lambert would've lived. Mistakes and incompetence are a trademark of the universe by now.

Parker and Lambert didn't die because of there being limited life-boats. The shuttle had enough room for four people

Ripley explicitly says it can't take 4. Even 3 is pushing capacity, hence needing the coolant.

None of that coolant Parker and Lambert were collecting made it onto the lifeboat, so how did Ripley survive for 57 years?
Another Aliens writing blunder.

I think you should rewatch the movie lol