Quote from: Nightmare Asylum on Oct 18, 2020, 03:59:00 AM
Quote from: bb-15 on Oct 18, 2020, 03:21:22 AM
Quote from: SM on Oct 18, 2020, 01:47:49 AM
The genetic manipulation in Resurrection wasn't intentional.
Maybe we both have a different interpretation of what genetic manipulation is? Certainly the genetic manipulation in "Prometheus" goes far beyond what was done in "Resurrection".
But to me the efforts of the scientists in "Resurrection" to create a human/Xenomorph hybrid is based on genetic manipulation.
The Ripley clone with xeno traits in that film is the result of genetic manipulation imo.
Same with the Xenomorph queen who has a uterus and her odd looking offspring who is killed at the end of the movie. Again imo.
Clearly you think there is a difference with what the scientists were doing in AR compared with the Engineer tech in Pro.
Could you please tell me your POV.
What the USM scientists achieved was absolutely genetic manipulation. But that wasn't intentional on their part. They intended to create a Ripley clone where the chestburster DNA was separate from the human DNA, so that they could retrieve the Queen for their experiments. What they wanted was a Queen - not a medley mixing the Queen and Ripley's DNA, hence them considering Ripleys 1-7 failures. On the surface it looked like they had finally achieved their desired goal on their eighth attempt, until Ripley 8, the Queen, and the Queen's offspring started displaying traits belonging to the opposite species.
First of all, you are correct that what I mentioned previously came by accident;
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The Ripley clone with xeno traits in that film is the result of genetic manipulation imo.
Same with the Xenomorph queen who has a uterus and her odd looking offspring who is killed at the end of the movie."
However, that was not the only genetic manipulation which the scientists did in AR in my opinion.
What I am going to do is explain my point of view again in more detail.
* In AR there is a Ripley 8 clone which accidentally has become a human/Xenomorph hybrid.
Is the claim that this is the only genetic manipulation done by the scientists In AR?
* I'll explain that more was going on imo.
- A scientist taking a blood sample and only using that to create a human clone, would require genetic manipulation as I understand it.
- In AR the Ripley blood sample contained both human DNA and Xenomorph queen DNA.
Keeping the Ripley DNA separate from the queen DNA required manipulation or handling of each kind of DNA.
- Also the failures of the previous Ripley clones, with their strange appearance, indicates that the scientists were trying to manipulate the DNA to get a certain result. To get the seemingly correct result, Ripley 8, required a manipulation of the DNA in a certain way.
Anyway, we are all basing our conclusions on the same information. Here is the beginning of the plot descriptions of AR from AVP Galaxy and AVP Fandom.
QuoteIt is 200 years since Ellen Ripley died on Fiorina 161. Ripley's former employers, The Weyland-Yutani Company has dissolved and now the United Systems Military has assumed the task of breeding and harnessing the deadly aliens. With blood samples taken from her previous life, scientists clone a new Ripley in order to extract the queen alien inside of her. The new Ripley, known as number 8, acquires physical and emotional traits from both humanity and the aliens, making her question where her allegiances lie.
https://www.avpgalaxy.net/alien-movies/alien-resurrection/QuoteSome 200 years after the events on Fiorina "Fury" 161, military scientists on the research vessel Auriga successfully create a clone of Ellen Ripley, using DNA from blood samples taken before her death. They extract from her the embryonic Xenomorph Queen that had been growing inside her at the time of her death and raise it for study. As an afterthought, the Ripley clone, marked by a number "8" lasered onto her arm, is kept alive for further research. As a result of her DNA becoming mixed with that of the Xenomorphs during the imperfect cloning process, Ripley 8 is endowed with enhanced strength and reflexes, acidic blood, "inherited memories" from Ellen Ripley's past and an empathic link with the Xenomorphs, especially the Queen.
https://avp.fandom.com/wiki/Alien_Resurrection