What's Wrong With AvP?

[Infected]

I actually really liked the Predator Pistol. I thought it was pretty cool.

Yeah, me either. It was undeniably cool in an oldschool gunslinger kind of way and it made sense that he'd try and re-purpose it rather than bin it just because the tracking servos got smashed.

But didnt that took away the challenge of the hunting game of the preds? It kinda made it closer to humans and took away the magic of the predator, it was just to simple to introduce that.

[SM]

They're humanoid anyway and are based on human sports hunters.  Don't see how a particular weapon used by a Predator - who wasn't there to hunt really - changes that.  Where's the "magic"?

[Valaquen]

I actually really liked the Predator Pistol. I thought it was pretty cool.

Yeah, me either. It was undeniably cool in an oldschool gunslinger kind of way and it made sense that he'd try and re-purpose it rather than bin it just because the tracking servos got smashed.

But didnt that took away the challenge of the hunting game of the preds? It kinda made it closer to humans and took away the magic of the predator, it was just to simple to introduce that.

The Predator also uses spears and nets. I don't think a gun is beyond the pale.

[Infected]

Well a gun doesnt need much talent, its point and shoot, takes away the challenge for such a sporty and hunter full of honor, imo.

[SM]

They use laser guided energy weapons that explode on impact.

Where's the talent involved in that?

[Infected]

Only when needed to, or when the prey has a gun and willing to use it on the pred.

[SM]

Or just when it feels like it...

[Infected]

In the hunt only if it hasnt got any honor

[SM]

Blain got nailed without ever knowing what hit him, while his back was turned, no less.

It would show more talent if the Predator shot Mac, Dillon and Poncho with the handgun from AvP:R sans laser guidance.

[Corporal Hicks]

The Predator isn't really the paradigm of the honorable hunter that he's been romanticized into being overtime. He just enjoys killing. And it's not even always about the best or the most challenging kill.

[HuDaFuK]

But didnt that took away the challenge of the hunting game of the preds?

I fail to see how a pistol that he has to aim himself is less challenging than an auto-tracking shoulder cannon. Not to mention Wolf wasn't there to hunt. He was there to clean up, period.

[Infected]

So you guys like AVP:)

[windebieste]

I don't mind the 2004 movie.  I've read enough goofy Boys Own adventure stuff to look at it and see it's something Edgar Rice Burroughs, Conan Doyle or H. Rider Haggard would have written if they were around today.  I love that juvenile fiction.  The 'AvP' movie resembles that stuff sooo closely. 

I know a lot of people like to claim it's also got a lot of Lovecraft's 'At the Mountains of Madness' tied into it, but it's way more goofy than Lovecraft ever got. 

So in those terms, I find it enjoyable.  I just can't take it any more seriously than that. 

As for the 2nd movie.  Yeah.  It's absolute garbage.  The story is a reasonable follow up to the first one but overall the movie as directed very poorly.  I actually don't mind the story - but it's hard to strip it away from the rest of the lousy film making to make it worthwhile.  It's too dark, the characters are shit and Super Hero Wolf Predator just needs some spandex and a cape to fulfill his destiny in the MCU.  Yeah.  It's a kinda shit movie, actually.

Except for the Predalien.  I did like that thing and felt it was the best thing 'AvP-R' had to offer; but even then, the whole 'barf-birthing' thing was just disgusting and added nothing of value except how poorly the movie was put together by the Strauss bros.

As for the resolution at the end?  What a cop out.  Gah.

-Windebieste.

[echobbase79]

Let's see...
This is everything the AvP movies did wrong and what it generated
The Xenomorph design
The Predator design
The horrible "xeno and predator culture with pyramids" thing
Horrible concepts
Xenomorphs being weak as f**k when they are strong enough to endure massive heat from a spaceship's fire.
Predators being way too stupid that they aways get outsmarted by the prey that they" trained their entire life to hunt"(according to the movie)
The Predators helping the humans a long time ago
Shitting on the Alien Franchise timeline
Shitting on the Predator Franchise timeline
No marines.
Showing the original Weyland Yutani and killing him.
Teenagers
Predalien design that takes way too much of the Predator(Skin, muscle, hair) with no Bio-mechanical look and has square human-like teeth instead of only sharp teeth like the Yautjas.
Predators doing dishonorable things.(killing helpless people that had no way to defend themselves, taking time in skinning a unworthy prey.)
Preatorian laying eggs inside people with no explanation(And that for some reason only works on pregnant women.)
Artic having multiple people that found a way to appear all around the world later.
The HumanXPredator fanart that was created because of it.
The Pregnant women fetish that the director had and wasn't afraid to show.(At least it matched the Alien Franchise a bit.)
The entire bunch of people that thinks it's canon to both unverses when Ridley Scott doesn't give a f**k about it and Prometheus and it's sequels pretty much uncanonize it.
Predator blood not glowing in the second movie. (maybe it did but it was too goddam dark and I couldn't see shit.)
Xenomorph blood glowing in the first movie and being green.
Predalien blood not being acid.
Every Predator is turned into paper except the main one.
Xenomorph Queen being way too big.
Xenomorph surviving being Frozen and melted each 100 years with no colateral effects of being freezed or eletrecuted.(Or maybe there was and it would explain why the Xenomorphs of that movies were so weak and stupid.)



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The director's didn't have a pregnant fetish.

[Predaker]

This is everything the AvP movies did wrong and what it generated
...
The HumanXPredator fanart that was created because of it.

Ever heard of Machiko Noguchi?