New way to make usher's faint?

Started by War Wager, Sep 14, 2009, 08:02:09 AM

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Weasel

Weasel

#30
Quote from: Xhan on Sep 14, 2009, 06:14:54 PM
Extremely realistic, extremely nasty deaths. The one that got people was Parker's death, not Kane's.

Uh no. No. The whole reason the script was passed was because of Kanes death and it was by far the most shocking death.

Xhan

Xhan

#31
Wrong.... as usual.

This is a reported on FACT. In the initial test screening before final running edit, Parker's unedited death made people physically ill/leave the theater, much more so than Kane's death.

SiL

SiL

#32
Anywhere to read those reports? Sounds interesting.

Xhan

Xhan

#33
Variety of said year, Fangoria and I believe offhand it's even mentioned in Saga.

Didn't Jon also mention this in yall's thread?

SiL

SiL

#34
The only thing on the matter I can remember is Jon saying he doubled as the Alien's hands for the close-up!

Pvt. Hicks

Pvt. Hicks

#35
Quote from: SiL on Sep 20, 2009, 12:18:46 AM
Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Sep 19, 2009, 05:29:29 PM
It doesn't. So they just use human epidermis and tissue to make it? Huh? Then where does the facehugger come from?
Grows inside the egg.

From what though? Yeah it's "alien" but from what? It's a living organism.

Xenomorphine

Quote from: Pvt. Hicks on Sep 20, 2009, 07:42:27 AM
From what though? Yeah it's "alien" but from what? It's a living organism.

The same way as the chestburster comes into being: It's implanted in some sort of embryonic stage and develops.

It's no different to them being created inside the Queen, it's just that they'd be using/transforming the raw material of a dead or living body for mass. It would be rewriting/absorbing DNA, liquidising internal organs and so on, over a very prolonged space of time.

It's particularly horrific, because there's no indication as to whether a living host would truly die or just... Be kept in some sort of eternal state of agony, until the egg hatches and, therefore, 'dies'. Imagine if they really are capable of remaining dormant for hundreds or even thousands of years. Now imagine, as the original film attempted to imply, that every single one of the eggs inside the derelict, were actually the ship's crew.

It brings a whole new level of the obscene to what the creature's capable of. It makes it a truly alien parasitical concept for something as large as them.

And then there's the mystery of whether the resulting facehugger would look the same as the rest or be somehow larger, because of the eventual eggs being so.

I do like the Queen. That role allows them to make a more efficient use of available resources. But I also think that egg transformation - as a natural emergency, Queen-creating countermeasure - is just too iconic, if handled right, to simply throw away. It truly gives us the idea that, as in 'Aliens', to even let a single one of them loose on a planet, would immediately lead to mass, viral infection of the entire population.

And yes, there is biological precedent for this. Caterpillars cocoon themselves. They then undergo a genetic hormonal storm and the entire contents of it are liquidised, reformed and, eventually, transformed into a completely different creature. The original creature basically 'dies', gets reduced to fluidic paste and another one is created to emerge.

Pvt. Hicks

Pvt. Hicks

#37
But wouldn't introducing it this far into the series would confuse people? The Alien doesn't normally do that.

MadassAlex

MadassAlex

#38
It does do it, however, since the implication during the first movie is that those thousands of eggs are perhaps the victims of a single Alien, not to mention the deleted scene.

And, shit, every Alien-related movie has messed with the life-cycle since the first one. If this one had egg-morphing, it would technically be the only movie that didn't add to or alter it.

SM

SM

#39
QuoteBut wouldn't introducing it this far into the series would confuse people? The Alien doesn't normally do that.

They don't normally hurl down preggo chicks throats either.

At least - from the DC - egg morphing has some basis.

Weasel

Weasel

#40
Quote from: Xhan on Sep 20, 2009, 03:39:33 AM
Wrong.... as usual.

This is a reported on FACT. In the initial test screening before final running edit, Parker's unedited death made people physically ill/leave the theater, much more so than Kane's death.

As usual? f**k off man. I'd love for you to pull some evidence because I'm going by the quadrilogy and the fact that it WAS the most gory and shocking death.

Friendly Wise

http://www.littlegiger.com/articles/files/Starlog_26.pdf

Pg. 12 when it talks about the "Face Hugger" scene, didn't find the one from Fangoria.

Pvt. Hicks

Pvt. Hicks

#42
Quote from: SM on Sep 21, 2009, 12:32:07 AM
QuoteBut wouldn't introducing it this far into the series would confuse people? The Alien doesn't normally do that.

They don't normally hurl down preggo chicks throats either.

At least - from the DC - egg morphing has some basis.

The AvP films don't count.

Weasel

Weasel

#43
Quote from: ApeShallNeverKillApe on Sep 21, 2009, 07:10:33 PM
http://www.littlegiger.com/articles/files/Starlog_26.pdf

Pg. 12 when it talks about the "Face Hugger" scene, didn't find the one from Fangoria.

QuoteExecutive-Officer Kane endures two of the
most gruesome agonies ever filmed: The facehugger
burns its way with body acids through
the face-plate of Kane's space helmet and attaches
itself to his head, and a later "larval"
stage of the thing erupts out of his chest where
it has been incubating—unknown to Kane or
anyone else.

From the same.

SM

SM

#44
QuoteThe AvP films don't count.

Since when?  Since it suits your weak argument?

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