Alien: Romulus Catch-All Thread

Started by Corporal Hicks, Feb 20, 2023, 06:30:14 PM

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Local Trouble

Because it's cartoonish, which probably means it's exactly what we'll get.

https://www.avpgalaxy.net/forum/index.php?topic=66040.msg2586980#msg2586980

BigDaddyJohn

Their motive was always greed. A very human motive to have.

The Cruentus

Doesn't mean their methods need to be cartoony/bond villian though. Burke is a good example of greed done right, his first plan was try and be subtle, investigate first and then try and get exclusive rights. When that went wrong and his actions exposed, he then panicked and planned to infect Ripley and Newt, which was clearly desperation, and you can see the nervousness and sweat while it was happening.

Point being, as scummy as Burke was, he was not mustache twirling evil.

BigDaddyJohn

I agree, but when did you see other WY people being depicted as mustache twirling evil in the movies ?

The Cruentus

While not technically W-Y, The USM from Rez were.
And if you go to the prequels. You got Weyland's pursuit of life expansion or immortality (sure he was not overly malicious just ignorant of everyone else) In Covenant you got David being a card carrying villian.

Its worse in the EU of course and recent movies have leaned on tropes a bit too much. So I would not put it past folks to go full supervillain with them in future media.

 

Local Trouble

The entire premise of this movie smacks of EUification, so I fully expect any portrayal of the company to follow suit.

𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯

Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 25, 2024, 05:49:42 PMThe entire premise of this movie smacks of EUification, so I fully expect any portrayal of the company to follow suit.

We got evil WY in Alien 3.

Local Trouble

Quote from: SiL on Oct 15, 2022, 07:34:35 PMEven Alien 3 doesn't solidify any sort of overarching Evil Company scheme. They want to f**k around and find out about the Alien, sure. But they aren't abjectly evil in going about it. The only person they kill violently assaults one of them with an improvised weapon first; they escort the survivor out.

Every other depiction of the company in EU, such as Alien 3: The Gun, would have the Company just shoot everyone.

The Auriga team is more comic book villain, using human hosts rather than livestock.

The Cruentus

Quote from: 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯 on Mar 25, 2024, 06:13:17 PM
Quote from: Local Trouble on Mar 25, 2024, 05:49:42 PMThe entire premise of this movie smacks of EUification, so I fully expect any portrayal of the company to follow suit.

We got evil WY in Alien 3.

While definitely shady, I think they were fairly ambiguous in alien 3 rather than evil, for all we know they could have genuinely been sincere in trying to save Ripley's life, granted they definitely would have kept the Queen.  Plus Morse was spared despite Ripley thinking witnesses would be killed.
One thing I do like is that Ripley is flawed here, she is prone to bias based on her previous experiences. So her statement about the company is based through her perspective.

PortugueseXeno

Quote from: The Cruentus on Mar 25, 2024, 06:33:01 PMfor all we know they could have genuinely been sincere in trying to save Ripley's life

Ah yes, the Company that once deemed her expendable in order to get a Xeno, would now care about her life.

If anything, her dying would help them after the Queen bursted through her, since it would mean one less witness.

The Cruentus

The company or a few individuals in the company? because We don't know for sure how many were involved with the orders in Alien, and Burke was acting alone in the second movie. The company didn't deem Ripley anything.

If they wanted Ripley dead to eliminate witnesses, then why spare Morse?

David Weyland

It's possible that a human being didn't issue the crew is expendable Special order

Cosmic Incubation

All semantics really.
The language of the films is very blatantly that the company and/or being a greedy corpo are bad.

The Cruentus

They are negligent for sure, but they are not supervillians nor should they be.

Cosmic Incubation

Labeling people's lives as "expendable" for potential profits hardly counts as negligence imo. That's pretty direct.

Don't think it comes across as particularly moustache-twirling supervillainism either.
In fact it comes across more as a "seeing people as merely numbers on a screen" type of passiveness that still is evil in a more subtle and impactful way.

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