Quote from: Necronomicon II on Jun 09, 2023, 10:49:10 AM😂
Occam's Razor (substantiated by the film and writer/director James Cameron):
Burke is an unruly corporate executive who instigates the disaster on the colony. He sends the wildcatters to search for a specified grid reference, without knowing whether there was anything there; providing scant information to prevent interference from the Colonial Administration, as suggested by his confession to Ripley, "no exclusive rights for anyone..." This results in lost contact from the colony, prompting the Colonial Administration to dispatch the marines. Burke, seizing the opportunity, tags along under the pretense of the company's "substantial dollar value" investment and the likelihood of a damaged transmitter. He assumes the dual role of corporate representative and advisor alongside Ripley, a demoted flight officer who previously visited planet 426 before its survey and whose claims about aggressive lifeforms may now hold some credibility.
That still doesn't counter the fact that the board and even Ripley had information on the same landing location, that both company and government had a stake in such findings (as seen in what they did in the first movie and the third), that the government has surface rights (i.e., since it granted the company mining rights) which means there are no exclusive rights but, as Ripley eventually pointed out, percentages, and that the same percentage issue, i.e., full shares, are also raised in the first movie (and that time the rock wasn't owned by anyone yet, but likely theirs as the Nostromo crew was working on company time and using company assets, like the ship).
Additional problems for your "Occam's razor":
The company and government are not supposed to believe Ripley, but why do they send a heavily armed contingent which, according to Burke and implicitly acknowledged by Gorman, deals with particular "situations" involving "state-of-the-art firepower"? Why does Burke want to bring Ripley along? Given the point that it's a mission under "military jurisidiction," wouldn't Gorman be working under orders from superiors who, like him, have also read Ripley's brief?
That explanation plus the fact that you just acknowledged that the government (and not Burke) dispatched the Marines and that Burke works as a company rep shows that the narrative about Burke acting alone falls apart.
Last point, if all that is based on Ripley's story being credible, then why does she have to accept Burke's assurance that her flight status be reinstated and that the company "has" picked up her contract? She should have probably gotten a lawyer for that, too, with new contracts drawn between the company rep and her.
Quote from: caffeine4671 on Jun 09, 2023, 01:19:50 PMQuote from: Engineer on Jun 09, 2023, 12:57:10 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 09, 2023, 08:03:47 AMQuote from: Engineer on Jun 09, 2023, 12:52:23 AMUnderstandable.
My first play through took me about 3 months to get to the hive, then I shut it off and didn't go back for 5 years lol I did eventually beat it though
I played it through in 2 sittings over 2 days once the game showed up through my letter box. When the doors to the hive opened was when I took my first break. "Nope."
That moment the hive was revealed gave me more anxiety than I thought was possible
I noped the heck out of the game and had to finish it a week later. After all the time playing, only to run into that...Other than that? The fanboy part of me gets squirmy and a little disappointed that they never bothered including egg-morphing. Odd that they elected to include a deleted scene of Aliens as a basis for setting the plot up, but can't be arsed to do the same for a deleted scene in Alien, even if there's no Queen shown and the outbreak just sort of happens without further elaboration.
To remain on-topic, that was an issue for the end of the second movie, and in light of the third.
Quote from: caffeine4671 on Jun 09, 2023, 02:17:53 PMQuote from: Engineer on Jun 09, 2023, 02:10:03 PMQuote from: caffeine4671 on Jun 09, 2023, 01:19:50 PMQuote from: Engineer on Jun 09, 2023, 12:57:10 PMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 09, 2023, 08:03:47 AMQuote from: Engineer on Jun 09, 2023, 12:52:23 AMUnderstandable.
My first play through took me about 3 months to get to the hive, then I shut it off and didn't go back for 5 years lol I did eventually beat it though
I played it through in 2 sittings over 2 days once the game showed up through my letter box. When the doors to the hive opened was when I took my first break. "Nope."
That moment the hive was revealed gave me more anxiety than I thought was possible
I noped the heck out of the game and had to finish it a week later. After all the time playing, only to run into that...Other than that? The fanboy part of me gets squirmy and a little disappointed that they never bothered including egg-morphing. Odd that they elected to include a deleted scene of Aliens as a basis for setting the plot up, but can't be arsed to do the same for a deleted scene in Alien, even if there's no Queen shown and the outbreak just sort of happens without further elaboration.
Well to be fair, the game makers did say there was a queen, they just didn't show it because then us players would have been expecting a final showdown with it, which would have taken away from the alien-experience they were shooting for. No need for egg morphing if there was a queen, but who's to say there wasn't egg morphing taking place anyway? Just like the queen, nothing is shown, so it's open to interpretation...
Also, they did add in a deleted scene from alien... sort of... there was a scene in the script for alien where they manage to lure the alien into the airlock but ash intervenes to save it. The DLC "crew expendable" is supposed to be THAT scene, but they didn't re-create the scene exactly; they made some changes to it so that it would work as a game.
I know what the makers say, but also a bit disappointed they don't explore that process further. Also, Brett is clearly pulled into the air shafts and mentioned as such too, director's cut or no director's cut, yet they show him hanging out dead on a catwalk above the landing claw.
And also...regarding the Sevastapol hive...it's like, they show 1 lone drone on the Sevastapol?
And you know there's people killed initially, but then the hive just sort of happens and is there in the game.
To remain on-topic, that was an issue in the movie, i.e., how many of those were killed or cocooned. One pointed out that given the latter for almost everyone plus the use of the sentry guns, then there'd be few left. But it's not that big a problem as Newt was captured and put in the nest.