Quote from: The Cruentus on Aug 15, 2018, 10:15:45 AM
Yeah the Planet 4 version did have a skull, I think I remember it looking more differently though, namely the eye sockets.
I'm not questioning if you're correct, but do you know of a specific moment or scene where you can see it, or if there's screenshots available? I never noticed a skull but that's pretty cool that it's there.
Quote from: The Old One on Aug 15, 2018, 08:25:32 AM
Quote from: Xenomrph on Aug 14, 2018, 10:08:35 PM
If a future movie or comic or whatever wanted to have a Bull Alien with horns, I'd be totally okay with it.
I wouldn't.
To each their own.
Quote from: The Old One on Aug 15, 2018, 08:25:32 AM
No, I don't think so- for Aliens I believe any changes are due to an effort to better hide in the environment they create.
There's a lot of problems with this (long standing) theory when you really start to break it down, mostly due to the age of the Aliens and the uniformity in their design.
Quote from: The Old One on Aug 15, 2018, 08:25:32 AMThey all have human-like bodies and phallic heads, all of them have an androgynous and gaunt body.
The ones in Resurrection didn't, they had digitigrade legs. From Resurrection onward is where the "logic" of the Alien design starts to fall apart - the ones in the first AvP movie are literally identical to the ones from Resurrection from the knees up, so any explanation of "human DNA mixing" to address the Resurrection ones goes right out the window. And the ones from AvP Requiem are identical to the ones from AvP from the neck down, but just like with 'Aliens', the "age" and "camouflage" explanations don't add up. And then you get to Covenant where the Alien is recognizably an Alien, but still really different.
And that doesn't even touch on the comics or video games, where Aliens get redesigned constantly - but they're still recognizably Aliens. For me, rather than trying to find a "logic" behind their varying appearances, it just makes sense to me to write it all off as "Aliens follow general guidelines, not hard rules".
Quote from: The Old One on Aug 15, 2018, 08:25:32 AMfrom a design perspective you don't want to alter the head shape too much, keep the same basic silhouette.
I guess I don't mind changing things that much - even with the wacky Kenner figures, you can show just about any of them to pretty much anyone, even people who aren't huge Alien fans, and they're going to immediately say "oh hey, that's an Alien", and the figures have obvious design cues so you can immediately say "it's an Alien + a bull/gorilla/snake/rhino/whatever". Like yeah there's some exceptions (Killer Crab, Wild Boar, Scorpion) but even those are instantly recognizable as being a xenomorph, even if their host animal isn't as obvious.
Don't get me wrong, I get your complaint - people had the same problem with PredAliens having mandibles and dreadlocks, but personally I don't think slapping horns, dreadlocks, whatever on the head makes them any less of an Alien. I guess it's just a different threshold of what one believes "ruins" the Alien look - I'm 100% sure there are purists out there who think even the changes made in 'Aliens' ruin the design seen in the first movie.