Started by 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔈𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱𝔥 𝔓𝔞𝔰𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯, Dec 04, 2017, 05:54:38 PM
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Dec 27, 2017, 09:12:43 PMQuote from: Jonesy1974 on Dec 27, 2017, 12:26:52 PMI don't really get the Disney hate either, it just seems to be a band wagon people jump on. The Marvel and Star Wars films they have produced are well made, entertaining and hugely successful.Marvel movies are action comedies at this point. People are hating the new SW movie because all the comedy in it. Disney destroys the essence of their movies and put out generic stuff. They make money, no question, but whats the point of a cantina scene with no one smoking or drinking?If you are in the crowd that are just happy for something to be made, cool, but there are people that want to keep the original essence of the films and would rather not see some mass produced thing.
Quote from: Jonesy1974 on Dec 27, 2017, 12:26:52 PMI don't really get the Disney hate either, it just seems to be a band wagon people jump on. The Marvel and Star Wars films they have produced are well made, entertaining and hugely successful.
Quote from: necrotard on Dec 27, 2017, 10:18:02 PMhttp://www.alien-covenant.com/news/rumor-alien-covenant-sequel-cancelledGod, sci-fied is absolutely terrible. They're sighting a React365 article as a source. That website is for making intentionally fake articles to fool your friends. I see why that site gets a lot of flak on these boards.
Quote from: SM on Dec 27, 2017, 09:25:06 PMNo one smoking and drinking is your criticism?
Quote from: tleilaxu on Dec 27, 2017, 06:45:53 PMQuote from: Highland on Dec 26, 2017, 11:41:31 PMQuote from: tleilaxu on Dec 26, 2017, 10:24:50 PMQuote from: Xenomrph on Dec 26, 2017, 12:33:57 PMFor body-horror, maybe, depending on how it's handled, A lot of what makes horror work is what's not shown. PG-13 doesn't automatically mean jump scares, there are a bunch of quality PG-13 horror movies that are scary because of the sense of looming dread, tension, and as mentioned, what isn't shown. Shit, aside from the rampant profanity and the colonist chestburster scene in 'Aliens', that movie is practically bloodless. A reworking of the dialogue would turn that movie into an easy PG-13 by today's standards. Even Bishop getting torn in half wouldn't trigger an R-rateing, as the MPAA only cares about actual genuine bona-fide red human blood when it comes to gore. You can show aliens or robots being blasted apart and dismembered to your heart's content, and it's not considered "gory".All this undoubtedly carefully planned by James Cameron. Imagine if Hicks or Newt got ripped apart by the Alien queen, the movie wouldn't been anywhere close to as popular as it is now. The soccer moms in the audience would've raged and screamed, but by making the victim a robot that can take being ripped in two, he includes as much of the audience as possible while still doing a good job showcasing the queen's power.Also, using Logan and Deadpool as indicators that R-rated movies can do well is a pretty bad representative sample given that both of those movies are capeshit diarrhea which nowadays audiences keep craving in higher and higher doses.It wouldn't have been as popular because that's a crap idea.Because all the heroes and kids have to survive to make it a good movie? Imagine if the Alien queen had ripped Hicks apart, and Ripley and Bishop had to team up to beat her, with Bishop also getting destroyed in the process. You'd still have the kid surviving to please soccer moms, but the Alien queen would've seemed a lot more powerful as opposed to losing a 1v1 vs a powerloader. Quote from: Scorpio on Dec 27, 2017, 12:16:33 AMToo many kids post here I think, they want Marvel superhero movies not Alien. They want movies for kids, not adults.Nah, I think most consumers of these movies are actually fully grown adults, for some reason. Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Dec 27, 2017, 07:26:27 AMWho the heck wants a sequel to Covenant with the way it ended. So let me guess... the colonists get infected and someone has to save the day, and it leads into LV-426 in Alien? Ridley is so obsessed with that backdoor shit. Screw that. Damon had the right idea. Run tangentially, not right behind.The fun thing about the prequels is that there's no telling what's going to happen, whereas with e.g. a Blomkamp movie it would've been superpredictable (something happens, Alien outbreak, Ripley saves the day). Thank God that Ridley Scott in his old age is willing to break stale conventions, now we just need a slightly tighter script.
Quote from: Highland on Dec 26, 2017, 11:41:31 PMQuote from: tleilaxu on Dec 26, 2017, 10:24:50 PMQuote from: Xenomrph on Dec 26, 2017, 12:33:57 PMFor body-horror, maybe, depending on how it's handled, A lot of what makes horror work is what's not shown. PG-13 doesn't automatically mean jump scares, there are a bunch of quality PG-13 horror movies that are scary because of the sense of looming dread, tension, and as mentioned, what isn't shown. Shit, aside from the rampant profanity and the colonist chestburster scene in 'Aliens', that movie is practically bloodless. A reworking of the dialogue would turn that movie into an easy PG-13 by today's standards. Even Bishop getting torn in half wouldn't trigger an R-rateing, as the MPAA only cares about actual genuine bona-fide red human blood when it comes to gore. You can show aliens or robots being blasted apart and dismembered to your heart's content, and it's not considered "gory".All this undoubtedly carefully planned by James Cameron. Imagine if Hicks or Newt got ripped apart by the Alien queen, the movie wouldn't been anywhere close to as popular as it is now. The soccer moms in the audience would've raged and screamed, but by making the victim a robot that can take being ripped in two, he includes as much of the audience as possible while still doing a good job showcasing the queen's power.Also, using Logan and Deadpool as indicators that R-rated movies can do well is a pretty bad representative sample given that both of those movies are capeshit diarrhea which nowadays audiences keep craving in higher and higher doses.It wouldn't have been as popular because that's a crap idea.
Quote from: tleilaxu on Dec 26, 2017, 10:24:50 PMQuote from: Xenomrph on Dec 26, 2017, 12:33:57 PMFor body-horror, maybe, depending on how it's handled, A lot of what makes horror work is what's not shown. PG-13 doesn't automatically mean jump scares, there are a bunch of quality PG-13 horror movies that are scary because of the sense of looming dread, tension, and as mentioned, what isn't shown. Shit, aside from the rampant profanity and the colonist chestburster scene in 'Aliens', that movie is practically bloodless. A reworking of the dialogue would turn that movie into an easy PG-13 by today's standards. Even Bishop getting torn in half wouldn't trigger an R-rateing, as the MPAA only cares about actual genuine bona-fide red human blood when it comes to gore. You can show aliens or robots being blasted apart and dismembered to your heart's content, and it's not considered "gory".All this undoubtedly carefully planned by James Cameron. Imagine if Hicks or Newt got ripped apart by the Alien queen, the movie wouldn't been anywhere close to as popular as it is now. The soccer moms in the audience would've raged and screamed, but by making the victim a robot that can take being ripped in two, he includes as much of the audience as possible while still doing a good job showcasing the queen's power.Also, using Logan and Deadpool as indicators that R-rated movies can do well is a pretty bad representative sample given that both of those movies are capeshit diarrhea which nowadays audiences keep craving in higher and higher doses.
Quote from: Xenomrph on Dec 26, 2017, 12:33:57 PMFor body-horror, maybe, depending on how it's handled, A lot of what makes horror work is what's not shown. PG-13 doesn't automatically mean jump scares, there are a bunch of quality PG-13 horror movies that are scary because of the sense of looming dread, tension, and as mentioned, what isn't shown. Shit, aside from the rampant profanity and the colonist chestburster scene in 'Aliens', that movie is practically bloodless. A reworking of the dialogue would turn that movie into an easy PG-13 by today's standards. Even Bishop getting torn in half wouldn't trigger an R-rateing, as the MPAA only cares about actual genuine bona-fide red human blood when it comes to gore. You can show aliens or robots being blasted apart and dismembered to your heart's content, and it's not considered "gory".
Quote from: Scorpio on Dec 27, 2017, 12:16:33 AMToo many kids post here I think, they want Marvel superhero movies not Alien. They want movies for kids, not adults.
Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Dec 27, 2017, 07:26:27 AMWho the heck wants a sequel to Covenant with the way it ended. So let me guess... the colonists get infected and someone has to save the day, and it leads into LV-426 in Alien? Ridley is so obsessed with that backdoor shit. Screw that. Damon had the right idea. Run tangentially, not right behind.
Quote from: DaddyYautja on Dec 27, 2017, 09:12:43 PMPeople are hating the new SW movie because all the comedy in it. If you are in the crowd that are just happy for something to be made, cool, but there are people that want to keep the original essence of the films and would rather not see some mass produced thing.
Quote from: monkeylove on Dec 28, 2017, 05:59:31 AMQuote from: necrotard on Dec 27, 2017, 10:18:02 PMhttp://www.alien-covenant.com/news/rumor-alien-covenant-sequel-cancelledGod, sci-fied is absolutely terrible. They're sighting a React365 article as a source. That website is for making intentionally fake articles to fool your friends. I see why that site gets a lot of flak on these boards.This article refers to a Blu-Ray forum user.
Quote from: necrotard on Dec 28, 2017, 06:56:58 AMQuote from: monkeylove on Dec 28, 2017, 05:59:31 AMQuote from: necrotard on Dec 27, 2017, 10:18:02 PMhttp://www.alien-covenant.com/news/rumor-alien-covenant-sequel-cancelledGod, sci-fied is absolutely terrible. They're sighting a React365 article as a source. That website is for making intentionally fake articles to fool your friends. I see why that site gets a lot of flak on these boards.This article refers to a Blu-Ray forum user.Still more credible than a React365 article. Those articles are admittedly fake for pranking your friends.
Quote from: Paranoid Android on Dec 28, 2017, 04:40:48 AMThere was always comedy in the Star Wars films
Quote from: ChrisPachi on Dec 28, 2017, 09:05:02 AMQuote from: Paranoid Android on Dec 28, 2017, 04:40:48 AMThere was always comedy in the Star Wars films
Quote from: necrotard on Dec 28, 2017, 06:56:58 AMStill more credible than a React365 article. Those articles are admittedly fake for pranking your friends.
Quote from: Highland on Dec 28, 2017, 12:05:36 AMQuote from: tleilaxu on Dec 27, 2017, 06:45:53 PMQuote from: Highland on Dec 26, 2017, 11:41:31 PMQuote from: tleilaxu on Dec 26, 2017, 10:24:50 PMQuote from: Xenomrph on Dec 26, 2017, 12:33:57 PMFor body-horror, maybe, depending on how it's handled, A lot of what makes horror work is what's not shown. PG-13 doesn't automatically mean jump scares, there are a bunch of quality PG-13 horror movies that are scary because of the sense of looming dread, tension, and as mentioned, what isn't shown. Shit, aside from the rampant profanity and the colonist chestburster scene in 'Aliens', that movie is practically bloodless. A reworking of the dialogue would turn that movie into an easy PG-13 by today's standards. Even Bishop getting torn in half wouldn't trigger an R-rateing, as the MPAA only cares about actual genuine bona-fide red human blood when it comes to gore. You can show aliens or robots being blasted apart and dismembered to your heart's content, and it's not considered "gory".All this undoubtedly carefully planned by James Cameron. Imagine if Hicks or Newt got ripped apart by the Alien queen, the movie wouldn't been anywhere close to as popular as it is now. The soccer moms in the audience would've raged and screamed, but by making the victim a robot that can take being ripped in two, he includes as much of the audience as possible while still doing a good job showcasing the queen's power.Also, using Logan and Deadpool as indicators that R-rated movies can do well is a pretty bad representative sample given that both of those movies are capeshit diarrhea which nowadays audiences keep craving in higher and higher doses.It wouldn't have been as popular because that's a crap idea.Because all the heroes and kids have to survive to make it a good movie? Imagine if the Alien queen had ripped Hicks apart, and Ripley and Bishop had to team up to beat her, with Bishop also getting destroyed in the process. You'd still have the kid surviving to please soccer moms, but the Alien queen would've seemed a lot more powerful as opposed to losing a 1v1 vs a powerloader. Quote from: Scorpio on Dec 27, 2017, 12:16:33 AMToo many kids post here I think, they want Marvel superhero movies not Alien. They want movies for kids, not adults.Nah, I think most consumers of these movies are actually fully grown adults, for some reason. Quote from: BishopShouldGo on Dec 27, 2017, 07:26:27 AMWho the heck wants a sequel to Covenant with the way it ended. So let me guess... the colonists get infected and someone has to save the day, and it leads into LV-426 in Alien? Ridley is so obsessed with that backdoor shit. Screw that. Damon had the right idea. Run tangentially, not right behind.The fun thing about the prequels is that there's no telling what's going to happen, whereas with e.g. a Blomkamp movie it would've been superpredictable (something happens, Alien outbreak, Ripley saves the day). Thank God that Ridley Scott in his old age is willing to break stale conventions, now we just need a slightly tighter script.98/94 % critic and fan base still say's your ending Aliens ending sucks. Your Alien in Covenant got beat by one mom, twice.