Both are insults to filmography. The only saving grace of A:R was Ron Perlman and Brad Dourif (you know, the guy who actually treated Ripley like a person and not a dog like the other scientists?) and AVP:R was just messed up on so many levels. The saving grace is The Wolf, the Aliens and the Predalien. But the characters? The plot? the setting? the predator homeworld??? Noooo....