Quote from: kwisatz on Jun 14, 2023, 02:41:41 AMIt's all nothing if the writing suxx arse tho
Writing is what guaranteed this being released theatrically... the WGA Writer's Strike that is. Studios will need to rake in as many profits as they can because the strike will affect revenues approx a year-2 years after the end of the strikes. Investing in franchises which already have several unproduced scripts, and expanded media, which they can later mine for content, is an ace in the whole to combat the conditions. Better yet, they can just produce the written scripts as is, because they own them already. This makes writer's strikes good for franchises like Alien - at least for fans like us who love following the in's and outs of the development aspects, as they come up and then fizzle out.
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if we started hearing rumblings of movement around some of the recent Alien projects that didn't get made - again - if this rolls on much longer. The AVP animated series, Blomkamp's film, Ridley's 3rd prequel, maybe even that Brandywine script... if it's written and they already own it, there is a good chance they will start to reconsider it. Another possibility is that some of those ideas make their way into the second or third season of the Alien series, depending on how much is already written.
In 2007-2008, the writer's strike resulted in a boom of reality TV because the industry had to move forward with productions, and without writer's they start mining for content they already own, to bolster the box office. It is a much bigger issue for the industry than people realize.
A franchise like Alien is a beast on multiple fronts, so what once looked like a risk will suddenly appear like a much better investment.
Especially considering how much is currently in the works. It's a logical property to flesh out in the absence of months and months of new material in development.
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 14, 2023, 07:49:36 AMQuote from: Nukiemorph on Jun 13, 2023, 04:50:06 PMCovenant won't be the last Alien film we ever see in theaters!
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David as Alien creator controversy aside, I still f**king love Covenant.
I think this is about on par with when I was expecting to see the film release. I just hope we actually get some noise and promotion for it. These quieter productions are much less exciting for us to track and cover. 
I miss all the on-set interviews and set reports.
Regardless, I'm still excited for this. Very glad it's actually coming to theatres!
Another way the writer's strike helps this project. They will want to invest, promote and merch more.
Quote from: Necronomicon II on Jun 14, 2023, 09:01:52 AMQuote from: Corporal Hicks on Jun 14, 2023, 07:49:36 AMQuote from: Nukiemorph on Jun 13, 2023, 04:50:06 PMCovenant won't be the last Alien film we ever see in theaters!
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David as Alien creator controversy aside, I still f**king love Covenant.
I think this is about on par with when I was expecting to see the film release. I just hope we actually get some noise and promotion for it. These quieter productions are much less exciting for us to track and cover. I miss all the on-set interviews and set reports.
Regardless, I'm still excited for this. Very glad it's actually coming to theatres!
Ay, I asked chatgpt about David and here's what it said —
"The events of the "Alien" franchise, particularly as depicted in "Prometheus" and "Alien: Covenant," suggest that the android David played a significant role in the creation of a version of the Xenomorph creature, but whether he is the original creator is a subject of debate.
David mistakenly attributes the poem "Ozymandias" to Lord Byron when it was written by Percy Bysshe Shelley. This error, coupled with his overall deceptive behavior, suggests that he might be an unreliable narrator. Therefore, it's reasonable to question his claim of being the creator of the Xenomorph species.
The theme of mistaken authorship certainly adds an interesting layer to this discussion. If David, a highly advanced artificial intelligence, can mistakenly attribute a famous poem to the wrong author, it's conceivable that he could also mistakenly believe he is the original creator of the Xenomorph, when he may be merely recreating or modifying something that existed previously.
As for whether an AI can authentically create, that's a complex philosophical question. From a practical perspective, we see throughout the "Alien" series that David can indeed manipulate biological materials and 'create' in the sense of producing new life forms. Whether this counts as 'authentic' creation may depend on how one defines creativity. If it involves bringing something wholly new into existence, then perhaps David falls short, given the pre-existing elements he works with. But if creativity includes making something new from pre-existing elements—which is, after all, what all artists and inventors do—then one could argue that David does indeed create.
Ultimately, the question of David's reliability as a narrator, and the philosophical implications of his 'creations', adds depth and complexity to his character and to the overarching narrative of the "Alien" franchise."
Not a bad answer. 😅
During promotion, I remember somebody mentioning the old adage, "You can't create something that doesn't reference something you've seen before" and I think this applies to David's flaws explicitly. I would argue its implied -
given the subtext that David cannot mate and procreate, and he is therefore like a sexually frustrated robot, angry that he cannot procreate, the one thing his human creators could do which made them superior - that David's work is doomed to merely recreate the alien and is therefore a failure to him.
While I'm extrapolating, I suspect this theme was to be explored in the sequel/s to Covenant. What a great twist on this, it would be for David to "find" the Derelict and realize it had already been done.
I also love Covenant and think it the 4th best in the series behind the trilogy.
