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Learning With Zeus, Reviewing Predator: Stalking Shadows – AvP Galaxy Podcast #113

We have just uploaded the 113th episode of the Alien vs. Predator Galaxy Podcast (right-click and save as to download)! Corporal Hicks and RidgeTop are once again joined by AvP Galaxy guest writer and community member Voodoo Magic to discuss the Predator: Hunting Grounds prequel novel, Predator: Stalking Shadows!

 Learning With Zeus, Reviewing Predator: Stalking Shadows - AvP Galaxy Podcast #113

We discuss how satisfying Stalking Shadows is compared to the audio tapes in Hunting Grounds, characters having to play catch-up with the readers, and plenty more!

We did have a few audio problems with this episode. AJ’s wrap-up review was re-recorded after the fact as his connection kept dropping so the quality is noticeably different. Some of my audio was low and odd words ended up being removed by the automatic post-production processing. So apologies in advanced, and thanks for the understanding.

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  1. SpaceKase
    I'd love Harringan but I think he would be too old to be a playable character, but I would like some tapes from him and a class that he trained or something

    Late 30's in 1997 would put Harrigan in late 50s in 2017. Pushing 65 perhaps in 2025? I think it can still work if he's kept himself in shape. Maybe Mike has also had some of the Yautja juice that keeps Dutch so spry...

    Speaking of that, we gonna ignore the fact that two games have now copied AVP eternal's vampirizing premise lol.

    It's pretty fascinating actually, what started as movie magic from the first aid scenes with the Jungle and City Hunters, got expanded quite a bit in the games with the UV crystal shard things that heal your pred up proper, and now 30 years later, genuine science is exploring the miraculous efficiency of undifferentiated stem cells and biologically based nano-technology, and suddenly it all doesn't seem so far fetched any more.

    If Yautja, being as advanced as they are, have blood that is infused with what are essentially artificially produced, self-replicating stem cells, powered internally by the natural biological processes and storing their charge in the form of phosphorescent cells, then they would have the ability to be externally charged by exposure to higher energy UV stimulation when those natural biological functions become impaired or compromised. Just like holding a black light up to a glow stick.

    From: https://www.thoughtco.com/fluorescence-versus-phosphorescence-4063769
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    a phosphorescent material absorbs high energy light (usually ultraviolet), causing the electrons to move into a higher energy state, but the transition back to a lower energy state occurs much more slowly and the direction of the electron spin may change. Phosphorescent materials may appear to glow for several seconds up to a couple of days after the light has been turned off. The reason phosphorescence lasts longer than fluorescence is because the excited electrons jump to a higher energy level than for fluorescence. The electrons have more energy to lose and may spend time at different energy levels between the excited state and the ground state.

    If the artificial stem cell nanotech is designed for Yautja physiology and biological processes, then it could potentially support the replenishment of their cells indefinitely before other entropic forces eventually broke down the system's functioning. Perhaps for Yautja it is indeed not the Years, but just the Mileage.

    Being not designed specifically for human physiology, but adaptable enough to function with cells in that foreign environment, the artificial cells could very well function when introduced in the high doses one would receive from eating a Yautja heart perhaps. But, not possessing of the natural Yautja biological functioning which would normally consistently recharge the cells internally, the artificially produced stem cells would run out of their charge and replenishment ability much faster without external UV stimulation, stimulation that Yautja biology is perhaps adapted to but which is inherently harmful to human biology through the damage it inflicts to our DNA.
  2. Tichinde
    I'd love Harringan but I think he would be too old to be a playable character, but I would like some tapes from him and a class that he trained or something

    Late 30's in 1997 would put Harrigan in late 50s in 2017. Pushing 65 perhaps in 2025? I think it can still work if he's kept himself in shape. Maybe Mike has also had some of the Yautja juice that keeps Dutch so spry...

    Speaking of that, we gonna ignore the fact that two games have now copied AVP eternal's vampirizing premise lol.
  3. SpaceKase
    listening to the audible dramatization while I mow grass. Really like what this book is doing with dutch and keys, just wanted to drop by and say that.
    I just listened to the sample. Er... Hmm. That's an interesting Arnie impression. Sounds more like Udo Kier.

    Lol. Yeah, James Patrick Cronin has been doing all the Predator Audiobooks lately, you can tell early on in Stalking Shadows that he's deliberately trying Not to do an Arnie impression, but that goal was a bit too herculean and his Dutch voice is kinda all over the map for most of the book. Later on towards the end he sorta settle's on Arnie-light and it feels a bit more comfortable.

    Ironically enough, the Dutch tapes from the game are using the real Arnie, which is mostly awesome but kinda weirdly not Dutch-like sometimes. Like in the recording from March 3rd 2008 right after his entire squad is killed and he only survives because the big Female Yaut lets him live after scarring him up, he just kinda glides over the fact that all his buddies were just slaughtered in front of him. but eh. c'est la vie. Mr Schwarzenegger is incredibly awesome for even being a part of this.
  4. Samhain13
    If you're a crazy pants, like me, and you want some chronological context here's a smattering of events in chronological order with the game specific media in italics...

    1987.0000      Predator
    1987.0912   Dutch Recordings   Debriefing
    1991.0408   Dutch Recordings   Folklore
    1992.0627   Dutch Recordings   Patience
    1996.0223   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   1 – Onboarding
    1996.0303   Dutch Recordings   Hades
    1996.1203   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   2 – Research
    1997.0212   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   3 – Development
    1997.0702   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   4 – Los Angeles

    1997.0702      Predator 2
    1997.0708   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   5 – Go Time
    1997.0708   Stalking Shadows   Prologue Los Angeles
    1997.0709   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 01
    1997.0710   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   6 – Aftermath
    1997.0710   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   7 – Meeting Dutch
    1997.0711   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   8 – Benefactors
    1997.0921   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   9 – Helmet and Arm
    1997.1012   Dutch Recordings   Strange Bedfellows
    1997.1201   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   10 – Technological Finds
    1998.0312   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   11 – Dutch and Team Dispatched
    1998.0409   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 02

    1998.0914      Predator - Homeworld
    1999.0000      AvP - e. Old Secrets
    1999.0319   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   12 – Plasma Caster
    2000.0101   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 03
    2000.0401   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 04
    2001.0404   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   13 – Close Encounter
    2002.0900   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 05 - 3rd Wk of Sept

    2004.0000      Alien vs Predator [Film]
    2004.0900   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 06 - 1st wk of Sept      
    2004.1027   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   14 – A Body

    2005.0829      Predator - If It Bleeds - e. Storm Blood
    2005.0900   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 07 - 1st wk of Sept
    2006.0500   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 08 - 3rd wk of May

    2007.0000      AvP - Sand Trap
    2007.0708   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   15 – Anniversary
    2007.1200   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 09 - 2nd wk of Dec
    2008.0303   Dutch Recordings   Napolean
    2008.0310   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   16 – Dutch’s Run In
    2008.1117   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   17 – Recovery
    2010.0524   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   18 – Calm
    2011.0700   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 10 - 2nd wk of July
    2013.0700   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 11 - 1st wk of July
    2013.0800   Stalking Shadows   Chapter 12 - 1st wk of Aug
    2015.0303   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   19 – Funding Issues
    2016.0829   OWLF Recordings - Sean Keyes   20 – Stargazer Final entry

    2016.1027      Predator - Hunter and Hunted
    2017.0000      Predator - If It Bleeds - c. Rematch
    2017.0000      Predator - Hunters
    2017.0000      Predator - Hunters II
    2017.0000      Predator - Hunters III
    2018.0000      The Predator
    2018.0113   Dutch Recordings   Stargazer
    2019.0000      Predator - If It Bleeds - Tin Warrior
    2022.0000      Predator - If It Bleeds - n. Drug War
    2023.0800   Stalking Shadows   Epilogue Ten Years Later
    2024.0000      AvP - Eternal
    2025.0400      Predator - Hunting Grounds
    2025.0730   Dutch Recordings   Still Hunting

    2030.0000      Predator - Concrete Jungle (Eurocom, PS2 Xbox game)
             
    But keep in mind, the DLC's are still coming out, so who knows what new lore is still coming down the pipe. I personally really want to know about this Big Mama yaut that branded Dutch's face, I have a feeling we haven't heard the last of her.

    That's nice. Thanks.
  5. Voodoo Magic
    Halfway through the youtube vers and Voodoo is cracking me up detailing Ellison supposed assassination plan for Dutch, two Hillbilly's and a transient, man. I guess that's all they had in the mib's assassination budget.

    Haha, I still feel guilty over some technical problems I was having so I'm glad I could create some laughs. But I know, right? Ellison can't put a sniper somewhere on a roof ready for Dutch to leave the bar? Instead he hires a homeless man? Maybe we should just be happy he was trying to give the homeless employment.   :laugh:

    i just have to give voodoo a shout-out for his pronunciation of hicks' and my name; so often, people pronounce it "air-on"  :P

    lol , appreciate it. I guess my English teacher deserves the credit for that one. :)
  6. SpaceKase
    Halfway through the youtube vers and Voodoo is cracking me up detailing Ellison supposed assassination plan for Dutch, two Hillbilly's and a transient, man. I guess that's all they had in the mib's assassination budget.
  7. lightsyder
    I've not played Hunting Grounds but a DLC with a Super Predator encounter would be cool.  Maybe add the hunting planet as a map.  Player team is captured and dropped off.  Be neat, also good way to the in some extra lore updates!
  8. PAS Spinelli
    Well that is interesting, what is the source for this snippet? And who are "they" and where do they mention a blackout in 2010?
    This snipped is in the synopsis listed on Amazon
    They being either the book or the tapes, they, gotta check it later, I remember someone talking to me about it but I wasn't paying attention haha
    I'll try finding it tomorrow

    Ah! I think you might be referring to the Pred tech surge described in the May 24th 2010 OWLF Recording #18. The writing is kinda weird for those recordings, but Keyes is describing an incident that occurred shortly after Dutch's run-in with the female Predator in early March of 2008, where he got his face scars. It may come up again in a future DLC, I hope it will, but as-is it's just a weird and ambiguous reference. That is, of course, if this is indeed what you might be thinking of. But I could be wrong.
    That's probably it, I wonder if it has something to do with Predators, we may know in the future, maybe we'll get a Royce update with audio logs too lmao
  9. SpaceKase
    Well that is interesting, what is the source for this snippet? And who are "they" and where do they mention a blackout in 2010?
    This snipped is in the synopsis listed on Amazon
    They being either the book or the tapes, they, gotta check it later, I remember someone talking to me about it but I wasn't paying attention haha
    I'll try finding it tomorrow

    Ah! I think you might be referring to the Pred tech surge described in the May 24th 2010 OWLF Recording #18. The writing is kinda weird for those recordings, but Keyes is describing an incident that occurred shortly after Dutch's run-in with the female Predator in early March of 2008, where he got his face scars. It may come up again in a future DLC, I hope it will, but as-is it's just a weird and ambiguous reference. That is, of course, if this is indeed what you might be thinking of. But I could be wrong.
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