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  1. Infected
    Quote from: Xenomorphine on May 06, 2012, 06:48:10 AM
    Quote from: bobcunk on May 05, 2012, 03:36:06 PM
    couldn't Weyland Corp have rented out the marines or something. And picture it like a super mega comanay that owns and runs almost everything.

    You don't "rent out" Marines, no. :)

    The closest you get to that, in today's world, would be private security contractors, like Blackwater. If a government ever allowed private companies to briefly own their own defence forces, it would be insanity.

    And like I said, doing so would contradict Ripley's conversation with Burke in the APC about company jurisdiction versus military jurisdiction, which was more realistic and also served to make the stakes more interesting by introducing the concept of competing interests.
    Dont know about that for sure,
    military is a company.
    On big ships in the ocean that are attacked by Somali pirates here in Holland they can rent or get marines protection,
    or against a cheaper price private guys.
    So when there is a big interest i think its possible to rent them,no doubt about it.
  2. Xenomorphine
    Quote from: bobcunk on May 05, 2012, 03:36:06 PM
    couldn't Weyland Corp have rented out the marines or something. And picture it like a super mega comanay that owns and runs almost everything.

    You don't "rent out" Marines, no. :)

    The closest you get to that, in today's world, would be private security contractors, like Blackwater. If a government ever allowed private companies to briefly own their own defence forces, it would be insanity.

    And like I said, doing so would contradict Ripley's conversation with Burke in the APC about company jurisdiction versus military jurisdiction, which was more realistic and also served to make the stakes more interesting by introducing the concept of competing interests.
  3. Promethean Fire
    Quote from: bobcunk on May 05, 2012, 03:36:06 PM
    Quote from: Xenomorphine on May 04, 2012, 10:15:28 PM
    If that timeline is in any way based on some sort of leaked script information, the canon is screwed up... The Colonial Marines are not company assets. That was the whole point of Ripley's confrontation with Burke in the APC.

    Also continue to be confused by the whole it's-not-canon-but-it-also-is quote frustration.

    couldn't Weyland Corp have rented out the marines or something. And  picture it like a super mega comanay that owns and runs almost everything.

    I think Ridley's vision of "The Company" was definitely more of a Big Brother style mega corp that owns practically everything.  Employees are paid in company shares as opposed to money.  Everyone seems to live in the shadow of The Company.

    Cameron seemed to depower The Company.  He made them answerable to other authorities such as the ICC and Colonial Administration.  They did not appear as all powerful in the sequel.  Even the motives for the corporate agenda were driven by a single man's greed, Burke.  There was no sense of an omniscient and coldly calculating mega corporation here.
  4. bobcunk
    Quote from: Xenomorphine on May 04, 2012, 10:15:28 PM
    If that timeline is in any way based on some sort of leaked script information, the canon is screwed up... The Colonial Marines are not company assets. That was the whole point of Ripley's confrontation with Burke in the APC.

    Also continue to be confused by the whole it's-not-canon-but-it-also-is quote frustration.

    couldn't Weyland Corp have rented out the marines or something. And  picture it like a super mega comanay that owns and runs almost everything.
  5. Valaquen
    There are only around 5 parent companies that run the entire food industry. Weyland could very well be a parent company, a 'capitalist octopus' that owns many other businesses and companies. No problem with them making a powerloader or having military contracts. Being responsible for the Colonial Marines though ... they're trying too hard to connect the dots.
  6. Xenomorphine
    None of that alters the fact it'll contradict 'Aliens' if Weyland's responsible for the Colonial Marines. :)

    And, really, I'd regard it as a cliché too far if they ever did try to portray that. It's already a bit dodgy that they're apparently showing power loaders and proto-pulse rifles as being invented by Weyland. The whole point of capitalism is that there's corporate diversity and competition. Right now, it's starting to look like they're the only company in existence on the planet.
  7. bcloyal
    Quote from: Xenomorphine on May 04, 2012, 10:15:28 PM
    If that timeline is in any way based on some sort of leaked script information, the canon is screwed up... The Colonial Marines are not company assets. That was the whole point of Ripley's confrontation with Burke in the APC.

    Also continue to be confused by the whole it's-not-canon-but-it-also-is quote frustration.

    First post ...

    Ridley , Damon and co. are saying that Prometheus is in the same Universe as Alien but will not lead straight into that film , or therefore any of the other movies.

    They have spoken of potential sequels that will lead further away from Alien itself - but like Prometheus any followup films will need to be cut from the same cloth as the original movie because of the presence of Weyland Corp etc.

    So when the question of canon raises it's head , and there is a clear link , I can only come to the conclusion that Prometheus is in fact a Reboot of the original franchise.

  8. Xenomorphine
    If that timeline is in any way based on some sort of leaked script information, the canon is screwed up... The Colonial Marines are not company assets. That was the whole point of Ripley's confrontation with Burke in the APC.

    Also continue to be confused by the whole it's-not-canon-but-it-also-is quote frustration.
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