Jurassic Park Series

[Corporal Hicks]

I'm not sure how well that would actually go down with the majority. Hell, I don't know how I feel about it.

[SiL]

With the Raptors, one thing they have always pushed is their intelligence, so training them actually fits. We tame lions, tigers, bears, dogs -- all dangerous animals, but intelligent enough to be trained. And all still lethal and incredibly capable of murdering us (Yes, even dogs.)

The Alien, though, has always had some question as to the nature of its intelligence. It's more like a cross between a spider, a shark, and an ant hive. None of these things are terribly stupid (except, maybe, sharks), but you're not about to train a trap door spider to do tricks.

[HuDaFuK]

We tame lions, tigers, bears, dogs -- all dangerous animals, but intelligent enough to be trained.

People keep citing those examples, but none of those actively hunt people, which is the difference for me.

[Vertigo]

They can, if given an opportunity to lose their fear of humans and see them as a food source. There have been plenty of lions (even healthy ones) throughout history that have become specialised in hunting humans.

JP's raptors were given those opportunities, we see one of them attacking its captors in the opening scene. How different could they have been with a handler who hand-reared them from birth, understood their social code, and was skilled enough to read their various moods and behave accordingly, just like big cat handlers do?

[SiL]

People keep citing those examples, but none of those actively hunt people, which is the difference for me.

Only because we don't tend to live in their hunting grounds -- when we stray, we absolutely are on the menu. On Isla Sorna, what else is there? The Raptors break out of their cage, and the first thing they come across is people. On Isla Nublar, the humans literally walk the one place they're not meant to. In JP3, the Raptors don't really hunt the humans, they just want their egg back.

[HuDaFuK]

Only because we don't tend to live in their hunting grounds -- when we stray, we absolutely are on the menu.

Straying into a dangerous animals' territory and being killed is not the same as being hunted. They're two totally different concepts. In the JP films, several dinosaurs actively hunt people, pursuing them over long distances to kill and eat them.

They can, if given an opportunity to lose their fear of humans and see them as a food source. There have been plenty of lions (even healthy ones) throughout history that have become specialised in hunting humans.

There haven't been "plenty" at all. Instances of lions eating people are incredibly rare. And the occasional opportunistic lion eating a couple of people is vastly different from a species that instinctively hunts people.

[SiL]

Straying into a dangerous animals' territory and being killed is not the same as being hunted.

But that's all that happens with the Raptors in the movie. Every single one of the films, people walk into their territory.

JP: Humans literally walk into them trying to turn the power back on. Raptors follow them a fairly short distance (The power station isn't that far from the visitor centre, the film makes a point of this).

TLW: Humans, again, literally walk into their hunting ground. They're explicitly told to avoid the middle of the island because that's where the predators hunt, and they're explicitly told not to go into the tall grass for the same reason. Again, it's not far from the tall grass to the visitor centre.

JPIII: Yet again, the humans run into the Raptors. This time, they take an egg, which is explicitly given as the reason the Raptors follow them so much in the film. They aren't hunting them just for food, they want their baby back.

The Raptors have never been shown to excessively hunt humans. Ellie and Muldoon encounter the Raptors, the Raptors follow her back to the visitor centre nearby. The InGen peeps go into the long grass, Malcolm et al. follow soon after, get followed to the visitor centre. And so on.

The only dinosaur portrayed as needlessly hunting people is the Spinosaurus (and I only say that because I can't remember the film that well), and arguably the T-Rex in the first movie -- but even then it was clearly just hunting around.

[szkoki]

new control room clip
http://jurassicworld.org/?id=306

[Vertigo]

Only because we don't tend to live in their hunting grounds -- when we stray, we absolutely are on the menu.

Straying into a dangerous animals' territory and being killed is not the same as being hunted. They're two totally different concepts. In the JP films, several dinosaurs actively hunt people, pursuing them over long distances to kill and eat them.

They can, if given an opportunity to lose their fear of humans and see them as a food source. There have been plenty of lions (even healthy ones) throughout history that have become specialised in hunting humans.

There haven't been "plenty" at all. Instances of lions eating people are incredibly rare. And the occasional opportunistic lion eating a couple of people is vastly different from a species that instinctively hunts people.

Wikipedia:
"550–700 people are attacked by lions every year."
"Man-eating lions have been recorded to actively enter human villages at night as well as during the day to acquire prey. ... Cases in Lindi have been documented where lions seize humans from the centre of substantial villages."
Famously the Tsavo lion pair killed over a hundred people in the late 19th century.

Widening the net to other members of Panthera, there are four tigers and leopards recorded to have killed over a hundred people. Tigers allegedly killed over a thousand people a year in the early 20th century, and are estimated to have killed 373,000 people since 1800.

[Alien³]

Welcome, to Jurassic World.

[SiL]

See, that.

I find it strange that I'm one of the few people being critical of the movie here, yet I'm one of the ones who has absolutely no problem with the raptors

[HuDaFuK]

Eh, it still seems silly to me in the film. What's more dangerous, a lion or a raptor? I'd rather be around neither, but I know which scares me more. Making them trained lessens that for me.

You guys don't agree and that's fine. But I think the image of a man leading raptors into battle on a motorcycle is just... stupid.

[szkoki]

its a dino cloning movie topic on a site wich is about space soldiers and space monsters with 30-60 yrs old fanboys posting every day, its all stupid

[predxeno]

I know that the only animal that is above us on the food chain (that sees humans as a normal food stuff) is the polar bear.

[jacc.90]