Well I saw AVP, but didn't get WTF was going on half the time. Then I watched Alien, and allthough I liked it, it definatly didn't strike me as the best movie ever made. I then watched Aliens and ALien 3 that same day (I rented the 3 of them and Predator 1) and I think it was a combination of them both that really made me a fan. Pred 1 made me a bigger fan, and after watching AVP again, the alien/Predator series became my favourate series ever! I still haven't ogtten around to seeing Alien r or Pred 2 yet, but I know what happens in them.