Bishop in Alien 3 - Human or Android?

[Uncanny Antman]

^Big time.  Funny too to watch Charlie get older and older, becoming more like Martin every year.

[Meathead320]

How could the company anticipate that they would need a droid that might get injured? How could they possibly have known that "hey...we need a droid that bleeds red...you know...just in case he gets hit on the head or something?" I mean really...does that not sound ridiculous to you?

Or Maybe, just for incase he gets ANY sort of cut, he will not be a dead give away?

The chance Ripley would say, "sure you're not an android, now cut your hand for me to be SURE", then he could just cut his hand and say "see... red blood".

Easy situation to anticipate, White blood was giving away other androids too easy, and this one could be a model designed to pass better for a human, without even being caught after a cut.

[SM]

If that's the case why did Bishop say "You'll just have to trust me."?

[Meathead320]

If that's the case why did Bishop say "You'll just have to trust me."?

Basic Physcology.

By putting it up to her, she is more likely to actually trust him.

He was trying to get her to trust him, so she would believe his LIE.

If you believe he was so human, then do you also believe that they intended to kill the Alien?

B2 also said: "Can't allow it live".

"You can have a new life, a family, and you will know it is dead"

Later he changes his mind: "you must let me have it, it's a magnificent specimen".

Yeah, Right, he was a liar. He was a confirmed LIAR.  We KNOW that at least to be a FACT.

So why would he be telling the truth about being human, and yet lie about his intentions with the Alien Queen?

Answer: He LIED about BOTH.

We already know for a FACT, that he was dishonest, even on the off chance that he was all of the following

1. Lookalike descendant of the original Charles Bishop Weyland
2. Also a robotics engineer/ designer like his ancestor
3. Willing to risk his ass for a dangerous biological specimen
4. Never even claimed to have anything to do with the ownership of WY, and just was the designer of the Bishop model android.
5. Was sent only to show "a familiar face" so that she would trust him.

Now why would they want her to trust him?

Answer: Maybe so that she does not kill the specimen inside her?

The whole thing was just to gain her trust.

Her trust, so they could convince her of the lie.

The red blood, the "can't allow it to live", "you will just have to trust me" etc...

He was just another android, modified just slightly, for the purpose of getting the Queen.

Nothing more or less.

[SM]

And yet after all that - he still has red blood.

Anything else is fan fic.

Nothing more or less.

[Meathead320]

And yet after all that - he still has red blood.

Anything else is fan fic.

Nothing more or less.

So why the RED BLOOD?

If WY is going through all the trouble of getting the last known source of the Alien, Ripley the Queen host, they send a mission to get it post haste. This is their last chance, and it is ALL RIDING on her trusting B2.

Would they risk all that work, all that effort, and all they stand to gain; by chancing that their negotiating Android might getting a tiny cut, and blow their cover?

Heck no! They would not take that risk. Not in a million years.

The whole thing was riding on her trusting him!

By adding red blood, she could potentially cut his hand to see if he is real, and gain even more trust by seeing the red blood and beliving his "human" story.

Then she might believe his "killing it" and "new life" lies too.

[SiL]

So why the RED BLOOD?

Because he's human.

[Meathead320]

So why the RED BLOOD?

Because he's human.

Sooo...

He is;

1. Lookalike descendant of the original Charles Bishop Weyland
2. Also a robotics engineer/ designer like his ancestor
3. Willing to risk his ass for a dangerous biological specimen
4. Never even claimed to have anything to do with the ownership of WY, and just was the designer of the Bishop model android.
5. Was sent only to show "a familiar face" so that she would trust him.


But he is also a Liar (we know that), but all the above points are all true, including the statements from himself?

[SM]

So?

He's still got red blood and you're making things up to try and counter it.

[SiL]

1. Lookalike descendant of the original Charles Bishop Weyland

Plastic surgery can do wonders as well, y'know

2. Also a robotics engineer/ designer like his ancestor

Even if they are related; so?

3. Willing to risk his ass for a dangerous biological specimen

They sacrificed a multi-million dollar ship - minus payload - a colony, a platoon of soldiers, and were willing to let a penal colony of 25 people die, in order to get this Alien. Yes, I think the company would send a lackey with a familiar face.

4. Never even claimed to have anything to do with the ownership of WY, and just was the designer of the Bishop model android.

Who claimed he did? What relevance does this have?

But he is also a Liar

Everyone lies, what's your point?

[Major Alan Schaefer]

well he did look like he was incharge...

[SM]

I thought Hi Chings character was personally.  Note on his birth certificate it says "Company Man".

[SiL]

For all we know Bishop 2's real name was B. J. Smegma.

Cookie to whoever gets the reference.

[Meathead320]

So?

He's still got red blood and you're making things up to try and counter it.

RED dye, I mean Blood, is the only supporting evidence you have.

His statements mean nothing, considering he is a liar.

[SiL]

RED dye, I mean Blood, is the only supporting evidence you have.

Which is more supporting evidence than you have, which is nothing.