Quote from: SM on Jan 29, 2018, 02:11:28 AM
They're not saying it's impossible. They're saying the creature she's describing has never been encountered by mankind on any of the over 300 planets they've surveyed.
Which is why they did not believe Ripley. The point, of course, is that you claimed that they did not refer to other worlds. They did.
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Yes.
Which is plot hole, because that would have meant that all of the company and government officials in the inquest were that stupid.
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I don't believe I made such a claim. There's two aspects. One; the Alien has never been encountered before and two; LV-426 has no indigenous life.
You did. Earlier, you wrote: "They said there was no indigenous life specifically on LV-426 - not numerous worlds." Now, you argue: "They're saying the creature she's describing has never been encountered by mankind on any of the over 300 planets they've surveyed." So, they were also referring to "numerous worlds," contrary to your earlier claim.
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Based on what the film shows us - yes and yes. As I said above.
There is nothing above where you said that. And you're still not addressing my points.
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As for the loss of contact - it was a loss of contact. If there was more to it, Ripley would've found it going through the colony logs.
It's a loss of contact because it's a loss of contact?
Circular reasoning.
Which she probably did but didn't have to say because all she needed to do was nail Burke to the wall.
Altogether, the idea that only Burke communicated with the colony, that the colony transmitters suddenly stopped working right after the colonists brought in the first infected person, and that no one bothered to contact the colony throughout the inquest (which meant that they would have found out about the loss of transmission even earlier) are not addressed satisfactorily in any of your posts.
Quote from: JungleHunter87 on Jan 28, 2018, 04:37:11 AM
The board member was specifically talking about the Xenomorph.
RIPLEY: Did IQ's just drop sharply while I was away? Ma'am, I already said it was not indigenous, it was a Derelict space craft. It was an Alien ship. It was not from there. Do you get it? We homed in on it's becon.
FEMALE BOARD MEMBER: And found something never recorded once, in over three hundred surveyed worlds. A creature which gestates inside a living human host. These are your words. And has concentrated Acid for blood.
RIPLEY: That's right. Look, I can see where this is going. But, I'm telling you those things exist.
Which is why I said earlier that this resolves the marine's belief that they will be going on on another "bug hunt": "Is this gonna be a stand-up
fight, sir, or another bug hunt?"
Does this mean that they encountered other creatures ("bugs") in other worlds? If so, and given the point that they would have easily contacted the colony during the initial part of the inquest, then why would they easily dismiss Ripley's claims? Also, it would have been uncharacteristic of them to do so as they were very thorough in their investigation: "The analysis team, which went over the lifeboat centimeter by centimeter, found no physical evidence of the creature you describe."
Hello, colony? Can you check this out for us? Colony? Hello? Hello? Oh, well, at least we checked the lifeboat, and that alone plus our surveys shows that Ripley must be making things up. LOL.
Finally, the point of mentioning this was to show that SM was wrong in claiming that they were only talking about LV-426.
Quote from: SM on Jan 29, 2018, 02:48:29 AM
"The hardwiring between [Operations] and [the uplink tower] is damaged."
It's fairly simple to fill in the gaps. Either it was the Aliens (accidental or on purpose), or someone pulled a Blair. Or they tried to contain the situation, and by the time they realised they couldn't - it was too late (and one of the aforementioned happened).
Damaged right after the first infected colonist arrived? That means the alien popped out right away, and then for some reason more aliens appeared, and they quickly killed or rounded up all of the colonists before the latter could send at least one message to tell the company what they they were under attack and needed help.
Sabotage makes more sense (with the saboteur having access to another set of wires leading to the uplink tower), but there's no proof of that in the script.
And damaging comms doesn't allow them to "contain the situation" in any way.
Quote from: SM on Jan 29, 2018, 10:36:36 PM
Perhaps. Or perhaps they wanted to try and deal with the situation before making a report.
What does "try and deal with the situation" mean, and how does that stop them from transmitting anything to the company?