Quote from: Mr. Clemens on Aug 03, 2017, 09:28:57 PM
What about this:
Maybe the facehugger has always impregnated its hosts quickly. Maybe the rest of time it was simply monitoring the embryo (and host) until it was ready to hatch... but obviously didn't have that luxury in this case.
Very close, as I have said before. implantation occurs somewhere in the first few
hours but remains attached after implantation for a further 16/20 mins to 16/20 hours. This is mentioned in the WYR.
Quote from: Gash on Aug 03, 2017, 10:39:34 PM
Because it was keeping him alive? Because it was indulging in Tantric sex? Because Facehuggers do their own thing?
Also. the hugger's securely fixed on Lope's face for 13 seconds - sexual intercourse within the animal kingdom is often shorter than that, so it's hardly beyond belief.
Again, because it attacked him in an alien atmosphere and kept him alive. It wasn't being attacked, it wasn't in a hurry. Why is it so hard to grasp that totally different circumstances would make one huggers attack more desperate and the others more measured.
The thought that a hugger could put it's tube down someones throat immediately without it also implanting immediately is harder to believe.
Russ, Marachuck and some other guys or as Sil said "
Aliens says no" Instead of all this grasping at straws, why can't folks just admit that its a just a stupid contradiction?
Since you seem to like using sexual metaphor stuff regarding the facehugger, the reason why it wouldn't just implant immediately upon forcing its ovipositor into someone's throat would then be same as why men don't immediately ejaculate when only just engaging in intercourse.
Quote from: Alien³ on Aug 03, 2017, 10:53:38 PM
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Aug 03, 2017, 09:12:07 PM
So why didn't it do that quickly with Kane?
Could have been because it hugged him in a toxic atmosphere. Stayed on, feeding him oxygen to get the job done.
Also the one that got Lope had been out of its egg for a while before it attacked. Could have been ready to shoot
It wasn't out of the egg that long and in fact we don't even know when that egg opened.
Quote from: Kane's other son on Aug 04, 2017, 09:50:52 AM
The facehugger staying on the victim's face for hours ensures that the embryo will grow in optimal conditions. Remember that it was feeding Kane with oxygen, maybe even nutrients.
There's no reason it would take hours for the embryo (black goo DNA strand?) to travel down the hugger's tube.
It was feeding Russ oxygen too. Its nothing to do with hostile atmosphere, facehuggers are or were designed to keep their host alive, the whole point of those sacs is to give them oxygen when attached and the only reason they would need to give oxygen is if they have to stay attached longer than a host could survive when being smothered....which they do, its supposed to be hours.
The lope incident isn't just a contradiction, because no matter how much certains fans want to grasp at straws but it will always renders certain qualities of a facehugger completely redudant. Because if it can implant in seconds, it has no need of those air sacs, it does not even need those sedatives since those are just there to put a host down for hours and to ensure it cannot be removed without killing a host.
Alien Covenant is not a bad film at all, I enjoyed it but there are major flaws and honestly, folks should stop being in denial about it, I get that there is some who don't see any issues because they may not care about lore etc but those that are trying too hard to explain or justify it must be aware on some level.
Admiting there is an issue with a film does not make it a bad film, Alien and Aliens had some issues too and they are great films. There is nothing wrong with being concerned or criticizing parts of a movie, especially one that has issue that stick out like a sore thumb.