Started by Corporal Hicks, Apr 28, 2017, 11:27:29 PM
Quote from: NickisSmart on May 07, 2017, 12:23:30 AMAlien didn't have nudity or sex. The closest we get are Parker's skin mags or posters on his bunk, or the bit the rolled-up magazine. Aside from that, it's just Ripley in her space undies.
Quote from: GQSioux on May 07, 2017, 12:31:52 AMI definitely have a few things to say about THAT shower scene once the embargo lifts.
Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on May 07, 2017, 12:26:23 AMQuote from: shawsbaby on May 06, 2017, 11:52:01 PMGiven that this is a horror-sci-fi film and technically the EIGHTH in an inconsistent franchise, we can't really expect uniformly great reviews. The genre in general gets mixed reaction and the stink of lesser movies surely follows this one around.Eight? You mean SIXTH, right? AVP is a separate franchise from the Alien franchise. Unfortunately the stink from the AVP movies have managed stick to the Alien movies somehow. Hopefully there won't be anymore AVP movies for a long time to come and we can all hope that A:C is as good as it seems like. Hopefully A:C and its sequels will wash away the AVP reek, and by that time A3 and A:R will have ten more years or so to mature in the minds of their former haters as they might, by that time, be ready to digest them both, or at least A3.Spoilerreading some of these reviews online it sure sounds like David is the creator of the Alien. It feels like Ridley chose to sacrifice the mystic primordial aspect of the Alien's nature in order to harp on the theme of the Created becoming the Creator, creating a new creation to kill one's creator. I hope this isn't the case as the Space Jockey (Engineers) basically being humans still feels like a letdown. Then on the other hand, Ridley is brave for "killing his darlings" in order to create something new and 'improved'. The twist that everything that we found mysterious in the original (ALIEN) was all related and created by 'humans' (counting human made androids and our human cousins the Engineers), is kind of an anticlimax. I know that some people say that David didn't create the Xenomorph from scratch but used merely used the black goo and some ancient blueprints to design and breed the Xenomorph. To me this doesn't make much of a difference. If it's created by 'humans' it can also be completely exterminated by 'humans', theoretically. To me that is a problem as it makes the Alien less mysterious, primordial and enigmatic. I always imagined the Xenomorph to be as old as the Universe - a remnant from another time or dimension.Still psyched by the movie and I can't wait to watch it![close]
Quote from: shawsbaby on May 06, 2017, 11:52:01 PMGiven that this is a horror-sci-fi film and technically the EIGHTH in an inconsistent franchise, we can't really expect uniformly great reviews. The genre in general gets mixed reaction and the stink of lesser movies surely follows this one around.
Quote from: Citadel on May 07, 2017, 12:32:36 AMQuote from: GQSioux on May 07, 2017, 12:31:52 AMI definitely have a few things to say about THAT shower scene once the embargo lifts.Was it.. wet?
Quote from: GQSioux on May 07, 2017, 12:34:27 AMQuote from: Citadel on May 07, 2017, 12:32:36 AMQuote from: GQSioux on May 07, 2017, 12:31:52 AMI definitely have a few things to say about THAT shower scene once the embargo lifts.Was it.. wet?I'll reveal my problems in detail soon. With spoiler tags, of course.
Quote from: newagescamartist on May 07, 2017, 12:32:41 AMQuote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on May 07, 2017, 12:26:23 AMQuote from: shawsbaby on May 06, 2017, 11:52:01 PMGiven that this is a horror-sci-fi film and technically the EIGHTH in an inconsistent franchise, we can't really expect uniformly great reviews. The genre in general gets mixed reaction and the stink of lesser movies surely follows this one around.Eight? You mean SIXTH, right? AVP is a separate franchise from the Alien franchise. Unfortunately the stink from the AVP movies have managed stick to the Alien movies somehow. Hopefully there won't be anymore AVP movies for a long time to come and we can all hope that A:C is as good as it seems like. Hopefully A:C and its sequels will wash away the AVP reek, and by that time A3 and A:R will have ten more years or so to mature in the minds of their former haters as they might, by that time, be ready to digest them both, or at least A3.Spoilerreading some of these reviews online it sure sounds like David is the creator of the Alien. It feels like Ridley chose to sacrifice the mystic primordial aspect of the Alien's nature in order to harp on the theme of the Created becoming the Creator, creating a new creation to kill one's creator. I hope this isn't the case as the Space Jockey (Engineers) basically being humans still feels like a letdown. Then on the other hand, Ridley is brave for "killing his darlings" in order to create something new and 'improved'. The twist that everything that we found mysterious in the original (ALIEN) was all related and created by 'humans' (counting human made androids and our human cousins the Engineers), is kind of an anticlimax. I know that some people say that David didn't create the Xenomorph from scratch but used merely used the black goo and some ancient blueprints to design and breed the Xenomorph. To me this doesn't make much of a difference. If it's created by 'humans' it can also be completely exterminated by 'humans', theoretically. To me that is a problem as it makes the Alien less mysterious, primordial and enigmatic. I always imagined the Xenomorph to be as old as the Universe - a remnant from another time or dimension.Still psyched by the movie and I can't wait to watch it![close]I think Alien 3 will be considered a classic a decade from now.
Quote from: Citadel on May 07, 2017, 12:38:57 AMQuote from: GQSioux on May 07, 2017, 12:34:27 AMQuote from: Citadel on May 07, 2017, 12:32:36 AMQuote from: GQSioux on May 07, 2017, 12:31:52 AMI definitely have a few things to say about THAT shower scene once the embargo lifts.Was it.. wet?I'll reveal my problems in detail soon. With spoiler tags, of course.Obviously I'm not interested in specifics because I don't want to spoil the film for myself, but can you say whether or not it was a disappointing scene, or whether it worked/didn't work?
Quote from: GQSioux on May 07, 2017, 12:59:35 AMQuote from: Citadel on May 07, 2017, 12:38:57 AMQuote from: GQSioux on May 07, 2017, 12:34:27 AMQuote from: Citadel on May 07, 2017, 12:32:36 AMQuote from: GQSioux on May 07, 2017, 12:31:52 AMI definitely have a few things to say about THAT shower scene once the embargo lifts.Was it.. wet?I'll reveal my problems in detail soon. With spoiler tags, of course.Obviously I'm not interested in specifics because I don't want to spoil the film for myself, but can you say whether or not it was a disappointing scene, or whether it worked/didn't work?There's a creative choice with the music that actually killed the shower scene for me and made it more of the horror trope cliche that some people feared back when the first trailer drop.
Quote from: GQSioux on May 07, 2017, 12:59:35 AMQuote from: Citadel on May 07, 2017, 12:38:57 AMQuote from: GQSioux on May 07, 2017, 12:34:27 AMQuote from: Citadel on May 07, 2017, 12:32:36 AMQuote from: GQSioux on May 07, 2017, 12:31:52 AMI definitely have a few things to say about THAT shower scene once the embargo lifts.Was it.. wet?I'll reveal my problems in detail soon. With spoiler tags, of course.Obviously I'm not interested in specifics because I don't want to spoil the film for myself, but can you say whether or not it was a disappointing scene, or whether it worked/didn't work?There's a creative choice with the music that actually killed the shower scene for me and made it more of the horror trope cliche that some people feared back when the first trailer dropped. And for the record, I overall liked the movie. 7/10 for me.