Predator: If It Bleeds - New Predator Anthology

Started by Corporal Hicks, Aug 02, 2016, 03:47:44 PM

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Xenomrph

Quote from: BryanThomasS on Sep 19, 2019, 09:33:47 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Mar 11, 2019, 11:51:28 PM
We need a volume 2.

ASAP

It's the literary community that's keeping these universes alive, not to mention entertaining. The books are running laps around the films.

And yes, rematch was my favorite by far. Well grounded, but still exciting.

Trying to get one made.
For what it's worth, I'd love to see an anthology centered around the Lost Predators from 'Predator 2', giving them little backstories and personalities. Maybe some of them hunted some of the crazy creatures we see mounted on the trophy wall inside their ship, etc.

BryanThomasS

I don't see it likely they'd do a full anthology on that but a story or two is certainly possible. Can't remember if anyone pitched one for the second volume I am working on or not but it was in my list of possibilities on the guidelines I sent writers.

Frosty Venom

Frosty Venom

#677
I wish an AVP anthology was feasible. Fox needs to allow these things.

Big fan of If If Bleeds, appreciate ya work Bryan Thomas.

Xenomrph

Xenomrph

#678
Quote from: Frosty Venom on Sep 21, 2019, 04:32:46 AM
I wish an AVP anthology was feasible. Fox needs to allow these things.
Has the idea been officially shot down?


Quote from: BryanThomasS on Sep 21, 2019, 03:54:18 AM
I don't see it likely they'd do a full anthology on that but a story or two is certainly possible. Can't remember if anyone pitched one for the second volume I am working on or not but it was in my list of possibilities on the guidelines I sent writers.
In my head I'm sort of picturing something like the old Star Wars "Tales from Jabba's Palace"/"Tales from the Mos Eisley Cantina" short story anthologies, where the authors picked random background characters and told little stories about them; sometimes the stories' plots intersected, most times they didn't, but the unifying theme was that they were all present in the Cantina or Jabba's Palace during the brief events in the movies.

I think it would be neat to see a series of stories about the Lost Predators as a way to give them all some degree of personality and individuality outside of just their appearance, and as an opportunity to showcase different Predator hunting tactics, methodologies, environments, etc.

I understand if it's not feasible as a full anthology, though.

The Cruentus

Quote from: BryanThomasS on Sep 19, 2019, 09:33:47 PM
Quote from: Huggs on Mar 11, 2019, 11:51:28 PM
We need a volume 2.

ASAP

It's the literary community that's keeping these universes alive, not to mention entertaining. The books are running laps around the films.

And yes, rematch was my favorite by far. Well grounded, but still exciting.

Trying to get one made. I have been on it for two years, authors all lined up, but Titan freaked out when the movie failed. We shall see. Writers have to have a year to write stories. Arnold Schwarzenegger is actually interested in contributing, his people approached me, but negotiations are complicated. If it goes, the next volume will have a direct sequel to the original with Dutch, a prequel story for Dutch and team, female predators, and another Predator 2 sequel along with a bunch of stuff.

For those of you who enjoyed If It Bleeds, If anyone is interested, I have an action packed novel with snarky humor kinda like 48 Hours or Lethal Weapon meets Bosch and Asimov's City Of Steel about a tough, Luddite Kansas City cop forced to team with an android to solve his partner's murder. I think my Predator fans will really enjoy it. Here's information AND you can read a 3 chapter preview. https://boralisbooks.wordpress.com/simon-says/



Quote from: Uncanny Antman on Jan 13, 2019, 09:47:22 AM
It wasn't quite was I was hoping for either, but let's not piss on it too much.  Bryan was nice enough to join us here, so let's try not to run him off with excess negativity.  :)

Those who choose to be rude and insulting show their ignorance and I employ the ignore feature. I just don't have time for it. They lose the privilege of interacting with me. I worked hard, my writers worked hard, we wrote our visions and Fox approved. No one is going to like everything but we earned our spots in this and no one else is doing what I am doing trying to keep this alive. So if they can't be gracious but are ingrates, I don't bother with them. I am fighting hard to keep more Predator books coming and believe me, right now I am losing. This kind of vocal negativity is one reason why. The number one reason I came on here was to find out what fans really want and try to provide that in the future. But the criticism and comments that are useful are productive and not rude and disrespectful,

As long as the female predators don't have breasts then I am all for their inclusion.

Also I got to say it is great that you would come here to see what fans would like to see and expect, as well as interact with us. I feel there is a balance to makng a good product for the franchise, one that can grow and add new things but doesn't stray from the lore and also one that is aimed at the relevent democraphs but doesn't pander too much to fans, as not everyone is on the same page on what they want or expect an d lot of desires by some fans can be a little.....out there.  :laugh:

The problem I feel with some studios today is that they are not satisfised with having a fanbase or certain demographic/audience, they want to reach all types of audiences and so the product is diluted so that it can reach a "wider audience". It just doesn't work well. AVP for example, they wanted to reach a wider audience and so they took all the blood and gore from it, Alien and Predator are R-rated movies and some fans expect a certain amount of violence from these two franchises.

Voodoo Magic

Quote from: The Cruentus on Sep 21, 2019, 10:35:46 AM
As long as the female predators don't have breasts then I am all for their inclusion.

What a strange thing to draw the line against in regards to inclusion, considering how extremely humanoid the Predator body and musculature is. If it's revealed that the male Predators assumingly have something that resembles male genitalia under their codpiece, would you be equally against it?

Xenomrph

Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 21, 2019, 12:08:28 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Sep 21, 2019, 10:35:46 AM
As long as the female predators don't have breasts then I am all for their inclusion.

What a strange thing to draw the line against in regards to inclusion, considering how extremely humanoid the Predator body and musculature is. If it's revealed that the male Predators assumingly have something that resembles male genitalia under their codpiece, would you be equally against it?
To be fair, "BOLT SOME TITS ON IT!" is one of the laziest ways to indicate gender when designing an extraterrestrial species, and makes it really, really easy to sexualize them.

Voodoo Magic

Quote from: Xenomrph on Sep 21, 2019, 01:06:20 PM
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 21, 2019, 12:08:28 PM
Quote from: The Cruentus on Sep 21, 2019, 10:35:46 AM
As long as the female predators don't have breasts then I am all for their inclusion.

What a strange thing to draw the line against in regards to inclusion, considering how extremely humanoid the Predator body and musculature is. If it's revealed that the male Predators assumingly have something that resembles male genitalia under their codpiece, would you be equally against it?
To be fair, "BOLT SOME TITS ON IT!" is one of the laziest ways to indicate gender when designing an extraterrestrial species, and makes it really, really easy to sexualize them.

True. And even "male" Predators have been sexualized by fans in unauthorized fiction and art, so I would imagine the females even more so. That's inevitable. But officially there's tactful ways of doing so, rather than giving a male Predator basically a man's body with protruding crotch, only to ridicoulusly make a woman Predator with say the anatomy of a spider.




Samhain13

Samhain13

#683
Just give the females a different bone structure, no boobs since we don't need any more rule 34 than has already been made. Same way as the Predators we have seen resemble the body structure of male humans, do the same with the female predators.



And I don't think its necessary to mention whenever its a male or a female, doesn't feel much relevant to the story. If its novel sure one can refer to the Predator as he or she on its POV, but in like a movie or a game, just the apperance should be enough to notice. Another idea that I heard here is giving the females a different shaped head/forehead.

Voodoo Magic

I think Cool Props nailed the female head on the left.


Xenomrph

I've always been a fan of the idea that Predator females are, at first glance, visually indistinguishable from males.

SuperiorIronman

Those are honestly some of my favorite sculptures.

That's pretty much what I expect the females to look like in the face. A little slender in the face compared to the males with maybe some alterations to the mandibles. Maybe some differences in the frill but yeah that sculpt is spot on. I'd love to see that on film, in a comic, or make its way into a game.

Good stuff.

As for body type, an athletic or body builder type would make sense. They're humanoid enough that I'd buy the female looking as if it could be played by a seven foot tall actress. I'm not sure how I feel about giving them breasts but defined pecs would work, enough that it's suggestive of it but not large enough to be what they are. Although I'd be amused in that every time they show up the chest is covered and we are just as in the dark as we are with what's under the male's crotch gear. Otherwise while in gear they'd be indistinguishable at a glance.

HuDaFuK

I've said it before and I'll say it again, - who says the Predator in the second film wasn't female? The bone structure of its head was subtly but noticeably different from all the others we've seen.

But yeah, the boobs look f*cking sucks. It's lazy, makes no sense (most female species on Earth don't have pronounced breasts, why the hell would aliens? Oh, and good luck suckling with dem mandibles!) and more often than not it just leads to stupid, sexualised fan-porn.

razeak

Meh....Surely you've stumbled across Sonic porn. Any media will be turned to creepy fan porn. Sad but true.


Also, there are phoned in and lazy creators. I'm not saying anything about the "If it Bleeds" crew, but there are some hacks out there. This affects all media.

Voodoo Magic

Quote from: razeak on Sep 22, 2019, 01:31:00 PM
Meh....Surely you've stumbled across Sonic porn. Any media will be turned to creepy fan porn. Sad but true.

This 100 times over. You do a female Predator tactfully or not, with breasts or not, either way it's unfortunately going to happen... like it already has with the perceived 'male' Predator even though we have no idea what's really under the codpiece.

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