Quote from: SiL on Jan 20, 2017, 09:46:42 PM
Quote from: The Eighth Passenger on Jan 20, 2017, 04:51:48 PM
He has a distinctive "painterly style". Think vast epic landscapes with brooding skies, stark contrasts between light and dark. Lots of atmosphere, dust, rain, smoke and steam. He also has a very good eye for composition and many of the shots in his films were influenced by classical paintings from artists such as Vermeer and Edward Hooper.
You've just described every decent director and DP. That's my point.
I can tell a Tony Scott movie when I see one, but when I saw Exodus on TV I had to be reminded Ridley made it.
The Duelists, Alien, Blade Runner... Everything running up to perhaps the 90s (where he suddenly becomes Tony Scott for a while)... What made them stand out, particularly Blade R. and Alien was the
noir factor - the use of deep shadow, high contrast, strong 'key lights', and to use the 'painterly' cliche again, a real preponderance for painting faces and people with different kinds of light, fed through all manner of obstructions and reflections (the 'light behind an electric fan' thing became a tiresome sci-fi cliche for a long time).
And I'm no expert on this, but there was a quality brought out by the film stocks he was using at the time, that is now (debatably) more-or-less possible to replicate with digital cameras, but he mostly chooses not to it seems
I kind of get what people are saying about his more contemporary stuff (mainly the drab, de-saturated historical epics - The Martian really could have been anybody while he took naps); he frames like a William Wyler or something, almost nothing feels adventurous or gritty, but he goes big, gets what is needed while keeping the balance of elements in that widescreen, directing your attention with aplomb, stunning vistas .
Like when I see Prometheus I don't see the same guy from the first few films, powering through on marginal budgets, hungry. I see a complacent elder statesman who wants to lay down an epic for the ages, like those Golden Age Hollywood flicks that ignited his imagination as a kid
Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Jan 20, 2017, 09:20:36 AM
Agreed. I remember he once saying how he never listened to critics and that honestly worried me when it came to Alien: Covenant and how it'd improve upon Prometheus' mistakes. Fortunately, it sounds like he did listen to criticism and take it into account when working on sequel.
Covenant seems like Prometheus take 2, going back to a pre-Lindelof state and reworking the story Ridley and Spaihts were going to tell originally.
Yeah, let's hope so. I think he would advertise the course corrective as being his instincts on what hadn't worked, but the Prometheus feedback must have had an effect. Plus we've heard that line being trotted out that Prom. is now considered more a 'prologue'. Let's get back to features that can stand on their own, please. If Covenant leaves loose ends and doesn't meet $$ expectations, and they never conclude this arc, it'll be blue balls time.
Although interestingly I had heard somewhere (maybe here) that even Lindelof tried to get Ridders to offer more for the audience, knowing based on his 'Lost' rep that he'd be blamed for it. Or maybe that was just Lindelof throwing him under the bus after one too many internet death threats, and Rid not returning his calls.