Pacific Rim films

[Cvalda]

Yeah cause you can totally make gigant monsters fighting gigant robots without CGI.

I dunno, the term "kaiju" dropped in the trailer to elicit fanboy fapping is a genre that did it without CGI for over 50 years.

And look at what we got...

http://img.pandawhale.com/45155-Godzilla-f**k-this-gif-yoYL.gif

More entertaining.

[Vickers]

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[OmegaZilla]

They could do it with other means. There is the possibility to use stop-motion (with added motion blur -- they can do that now!) or go-motion, with the proper digital enhancement.

Or yes, suits.

And the Godzilla movies were all low budgeted; not a good indication, not of what a properly budgeted film would have looked like in their time, nor what it would look like now.

It's all in the craft of the technique. Example:

Yes, the film used a good 75% CGI in the end... but the above shot is Kurt Carley in the 1/24th scale suit.


Now don't get me wrong -- I'm not in the 'Pacific Rim CGI is horrendous' boat. I'm just saying that some things can be achieved with other means.

[Aspie]

Yeah cause you can totally make gigant monsters fighting gigant robots without CGI.

Practical effects...

But there are very few giant monster films that are actually good - CGI or not.

Girls you both full of shit.

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/3274/lolnd.gif

What is that gif from? I must know her name

[Cvalda]

go-motion

Would be fantastic if that were used today combined with digital compositing.

But then that would require actual imagination on the part of filmmakers and producers.

[Vickers]

Yeah cause you can totally make gigant monsters fighting gigant robots without CGI.

Practical effects...

But there are very few giant monster films that are actually good - CGI or not.

Girls you both full of shit.

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/3274/lolnd.gif

What is that gif from? I must know her name

Linda Cardellini from Freaks and Geeks.

[ScardyFox]

Yeah cause you can totally make gigant monsters fighting gigant robots without CGI.

Practical effects...

But there are very few giant monster films that are actually good - CGI or not.

Girls you both full of shit.

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/3274/lolnd.gif

What is that gif from? I must know her name

Here FOO'EL

[Space Sweeper]

suh hawt

[Aspie]

yeezus

[OmegaZilla]

Would be fantastic if that were used today combined with digital compositing.

Exactly, that's what I am saying.

But then that would require actual imagination on the part of filmmakers and producers.

I think the problem here is more due to the time part. CGI is quicker (though in no way easier) and I guess producers will be more willing to spend their money on CGI than these old techniques purely based on the success of other CGI-heavy films.

Del Toro is very imaginative, but he does not have total-total freedom over it I guess. Especially with such a big budget.

[ScardyFox]

Funny enough the first I "noticed" her was in Scooby Doo.

[Cvalda]

CGI is definitely not quicker, it take months and months and months of processing.

Go-motion = stick a maquette in front of a blue screen, puppeteer it in real time, then composite it. Fairly straightforward.

It's just that the effects industry, producers -- and of course audiences -- are so lazy and accustomed to the same kind of ugly, instantly dated, grotesquely expensive CGI crap time and time again that that's all anyone thinks to use anymore.

[Aspie]

Funny enough the first I "noticed" her was in Scooby Doo.

O_O

[Vickers]

CGI is definitely not quicker, it take months and months and months of processing.

Go-motion = stick a maquette in front of a blue screen, puppeteer it in real time, then composite it. Fairly straightforward.

It's just that the effects industry, producers -- and of course audiences -- are so lazy and accustomed to the same kind of ugly, instantly dated, grotesquely expensive CGI crap time and time again that that's all anyone thinks to use anymore.

Yup.

[ScardyFox]

Funny enough the first I "noticed" her was in Scooby Doo.

O_O

She played Velma... however its spelt. In the second one she wears a skin tight leather body suit.