Quote from: urban_predator83 on Sep 05, 2010, 03:28:22 PM
country is a mess. America deparately needs a real hero
And by YOUR logic should it be someone who want to destroy America?
What would You suggest this hero would do? Tell all those of European Decent (that would be the white people that took the land from the Native Americans) to go back to Europe?
Now what of all the non-whites (or non-Europeans whatever PC term you want to give it) living in Europe. Do you expect all of them to go home too?
You do realize that all over the world there are people living on land that was taken in war as well?
In all fairness we (USA) are a "country of immigrants" like George Bush immigrated to Iraq. We came here, took the land, and made a statue of ourselves facing back to our continent of origin. But that is NOT a Justification for Genocide right now.
The Native Americans are not the first to lose land, and there is no Justification for Genocide, what happened to them was bad.
My point is that America is NOT the ONLY place this has happened. The Original people on the island of Japan are not the same as those there now, just one of MANY other examples.
For those reasons when the 1949 International Laws for the Punishment and Provention of the crime of Genocide were passed they were Not made retro-active. They are universal, and apply everywhere. You may have free speech under National law in the USA, but NOT international law, not when it comes to saying any group should be destroyed or have to relocated.
The point of that is that you CANNOT use the past as a JUSTIFICATION for GENOCIDE right now.
By advocating the destruction of one group of people, you ARE breaking international law.
This is CLEARLY stated under article III, line C. of punishable acts.
Direct and public
incitement to commit genocidehttp://www.preventgenocide.org/genocide/officialtext.htmSo what do I HATE? How about when people try to Justify Genocide right now by bringing up the past?
"The phrase "in whole or in part" is important. Perpetrators need not intend to destroy the entire group. Destruction of only part of a group (such as its educated members, or members living in one region) is also genocide. Most authorities require intent to destroy a substantial number of group members – mass murder. But an individual criminal may be guilty of genocide even if he kills only one person, so long as he knew he was participating in a larger plan to destroy the group." There is the issue with saying Americans need to go back to Europe (not all came from Europe, but generally the comment is directed toward whitey)
So WHY do I have such an Issue with Genocide?
I have seen mass graves in person for one.
Saddam Hussein tried to commit Genocide against the Kurds. Nobody ever brings that one up.
He WAS put on trail for this and executed, and that was the harshest of charges. The modern Iraq did not need to have passed any new laws for this either, as he was convictable on already existing international law.
He could not use the "kurds are just a social construct" as defence either.
Just like when people say "
I know the answer to all of America's problems" - we should all send the _____________ people away. Or _____________ place should be destroyed.
Sound familiar?
The other double standard is this one.
"all race is a social construct, we are all exactly the same"
Coming from the same mouths that want to put the BLAME for problems on one group that they single out. Well if all are exactly the same, how can you single out one to say owned any area ever or now? Or to place blame? - yet they do ANYWAY.
Where do you draw the line with first making distinctions, then refusing to make distinctions?
Is it just making distinctions of convenience?
Am I the only one who notices this?