Why do people hate the Predalien embryo implantation into the pregnant women?

[SiL]

Also, I hate to rain on your parade SiL, but there is one survivor of an alien headbite in the movies.  Verheiden was headbitten

No he wasn't.

We see the Alien lunge for him. There's no sign he was headbitten, such as having a gaping hole in his head.

This could be what the alien was doing to Brett, not making him into an egg with a facehugger.

No, the Alien was turning him into an egg. That's what the filmmakers wanted, that's what they put in the scene. The Jaguar game turned the egg-morphing into an interesting idea for an extra life, nothing more.

You've really gotta stop bringing expanded universe into discussions regarding the movies. They don't fit together.

[predxeno]

This could be what the alien was doing to Brett, not making him into an egg with a facehugger.

No, the Alien was turning him into an egg. That's what the filmmakers wanted, that's what they put in the scene. The Jaguar game turned the egg-morphing into an interesting idea for an extra life, nothing more.

Unfortunately, as many people keep telling me, unless it's actually in the movie, it's not canon.

[SiL]

It was in the director's cut. Which was theatrically released.

People talk about stuff that happened in the Aliens DC as canon; we can do the same with Alien.

Egg-morphing's been known since 1979. A game released in the early 90s isn't about to rewrite it.

[SM]

I don't precisely remember the Verheiden scene, but remember that Aliens don't always go for the head with the inner jaw.

[predxeno]

I don't precisely remember the Verheiden scene, but remember that Aliens don't always go for the head with the inner jaw.

The alien in A:R went for Elgyn's torso, I think.

It was in the director's cut. Which was theatrically released.

People talk about stuff that happened in the Aliens DC as canon; we can do the same with Alien.

Egg-morphing's been known since 1979. A game released in the early 90s isn't about to rewrite it.

Yes, but it wasn't actually mentioned for certain what was happening to Brett.

[SM]

The film assumes a certain level of basic intelligence on behalf of the audience.

Riddles, Danny O'B et al. assumed the audience could work out that Brett and Dallas were turning into eggs.

[predxeno]

Yes, but a future director or somebody could completely erase that idea and replace it with a new one like the alien was turning them into space jockey babies.  A dumb idea, probably, but an idea that could still be implemented in the future due to lack of real, hard evidence of what was really going on.  Our assumptions don't matter, it's what it can be that really counts.

[SM]

There is no assumptions about what's going on.  They're turning into eggs.  And since no future director has changed that - they're STILL turning into eggs.

[predxeno]

I think, though I'm not too sure, the bodies in AvP Jaguar were turning into eggs as well, but they didn't have facehuggers, they had full grown adults or extra lives or whatever.

[SpaceMarines]

As SM has said, that is a game; not canon. It's like the Kenner toys.

[SM]

Quite.  Canon or not is neither here nor there.  It's simply game mechanics.

Ripley wasn't running around Fiorina with guns saving coccooned prisoners, nor was Fiorina heaving with Aliens - yet the Alien3 platformer and Alien3 The Gun showed us these things.

[predxeno]

Yeah, about these alternate games.  I like to see each movie, novelization, comic book adaptaion, and even game as a possible telling of said story.  It's kind of like hearing accounts from witnesses, some descriptions may vary incredulously from others and it's up to the police, but in our case; the fans, to determine what is most likely to be the actual depiction of what happened in that story.

[SpaceMarines]

I'm not sure how that statement is relevant (or sensical).

[predxeno]

How is it not relevant?

[SpaceMarines]

Maybe it was, but it didn't really make sense.