Quote from: Jigsaw85 on Dec 05, 2009, 08:44:38 AM
There is no such thing as a "real predator" or "true Predator" a Predator is a predator no matter how they look or act, If the title of the movie is "Predator", "Alien vs Predator" or "Predators" then the damn creature in the movie is a predator, pure and simple. Most of the people who spew this "true Predator" crap are just predator fanboys who can't deal with the fact that the predators are not gods. think about it, who are the only predators who are considered "fake Predators" right now? The AVP predators. and why is that? It's not because they were teenagers, listen to Paul Anderson's commentary on the DVD and you'll hear him say that they were stronger and more experienced then the first two predators. So why are they considered fake? Because they died easily. even though the AVP predators were going up against the Ultimate Prey and logically could die easily, the predator fanboys still cry "bullshit!" and now here we are 5 years later and what do we get? 3 predators going up against some of the most dangerous humans on the planet. And they die fairly easily granted not without taking the others with them (save Royce) still the predator fanboys take issue with this, even though a predator got his ass handed to him by a LA cop in Predator 2. when you look back at the original 2 predators, what did they have in common? they stayed invisible for more then 90% of the time. So logically the definition of a true predator is a predator who stays invisible and kills people when they least expect it. But a lot of Predator fanboys don't see it that way, no, they see the predators as skilled unstoppable gods who can not be touched, AVPR is proof of this. The predator fanboy ego is so big it made it's way onto the big screen. Wolf walks around and pwns everything in sight even though logically the aliens should have killed him in 5 seconds on multiple occasions. The strause brothers and AVPR are a reflection of everything that is wrong with the predator fanbase, they say he pwned because he was experienced but anyone with half a brain can tell you that's a load of shit.
To put it simply, the predator fanboys NEVER stop to think about who or what the predators are going up against. For example the AVP predators were going up against the ultimate prey. the aliens are 8 feet tall, strong, agile, and stealthy and most importantly, can see the predators when they are cloaked. It makes perfect sense that the aliens can kill them but of course the predator fanboys don't care about logic they just want the predator to look good. in Predators the predators get killed by some of the most dangerous humans on earth who use their skill and intelligence to kill the predators. so whats the pattern here?
1. the first predator who stayed invisible whenever he could and killed people when they least expected it and got pwned when he could be seen is considered a true predator.
2. the one in Predator 2 who stayed invisible when ever he could and got his ass kicked by a LA cop is considered a true predator.
3. the predators in AVP who are more skilled and stronger then the other two predators go up against the ultimate prey and can't use their invisibility to hide from them are considered fake predators.
4. the predator in AVPR who does not go invisible when in human territory (except when he really didn't need too)makes countless mistakes and just walks around crushing fake aliens using no skill whatsoever and never getting killed or even scratched when he logically should is considered a true predator.
5. the super predators in Predators go up against the most dangerous humans on earth and have to fight them without their cloak tech because they all short out at some point and lose to the humans skill and intelligence are considered fake predators.
I don't see a pattern, do you?
and some predator fanboys just take issue with the way they look, a lot of them like to call the predators in AVP, fat. but in reality they were muscular. in Predator 2 we saw predators of all different sizes. so what qualifies for a true predator? does a predator have to have a certain body type to be considered a true predator? does he have to stay invisible the whole time? does he have to live for the whole movie? does he have to be a certain size? does he have to be flawless in everything he does? or just flat out be a god like in avpr to be considered a true predator? or does he have to have all of these features to be considered a true predator?
bottom line is: there is no such thing as a "true" predator, there is only the deluded predator fanboys.
Man... just by the things you say I can already tell that you aren't a predator fan, so why do you waste your time coming here and talking all this crap about them?
1- the first predator could have killed dutch's team at any moment but he wanted to enjoy the hunt, he wanted to play with them, make they fell fear. He acted like a real hunter, and he only died because he didn't killed dutch when he could and of course because of the ''script immunity'' that dutch had, just like harrigan, ripley, wolf.
2- the second predator killed like all the gang bosses and members, man... he dominated the city, he used cloak but do you think a alien would do the same without stealthy and skill? He got shot many times shot by a shotgun, that nitrogenion gun, got his arm cutted off and harrigan not only had the ''script immunity sh*t'' but he has the most crazy, baddest cop in the city.
3- more skilled and stronger, you really consider the sh*t that anderson says something important? the strause brothers said in one interview that the aliens in avp were just drones and the ones in avp-r were warriors(stronger), that is why according to them they have ridged heads. Nothing that anderson or the strauses says should be considered anything else than bullsh*t. Man... the only reason the preds died is because anderson decided to make the alien tail extend to 3 meter just for the scene to kill chopper, and because celtic didn't used the spear, dagger and shuriken that he had.
4- most of the time wolf used his plasma canons, and i don't think a alien can survive that. But you are right, they were kind of stupid in the movie, but they have been like that since 'Aliens'.
5- I will wait for the movie to talk about this.
