Quote from: Weasel on Nov 03, 2008, 11:52:57 PM
AVPR wins even though it's plot and acting or more terrible, simply because it had more action, had the R rating it needed, and leads finally (hopefully) into space. If it wasn't for AVPs predalien ending, we could get that space action because we wouldn't have to link it to that exact time. AVP has generally cleaner and better plot, but certain elements make it garbage. The only reason to watch that movie is the Grid vs Scar battle. The lack of action makes it snore fest because the plot in itself is not enough to drive it forward.
Does a film need an R rating? I thought the action in AvP was much better than AvPR, which got repetitive as simply predator shoots, spears, slices alien in very dark areas, making it hard to see. The violence in AvP was stylized too, such as the when Scar's shuriken slices through the facehugger and the scene slows slightly, rather than the Wolf bashing things to death with his weapons, which gets old quickly. Yes AvpR had more action, but it was wolf/human shoots alien, wolf spears alien, alien facehugs/ kills human. And it all looked the same. The only exception was the end fight scene, which made no sense,(none of the alien's blood even touched the predator when it should have, took mask off.)
AvpR was too dark, it didn't make for a more frightening atmosphere, it just made things very hard to see, the film was also a lot less tense, which I think was caused because of the urban setting, compared to an ancient pyramid. In a city one is familiar with the environment which provides a degree of assurance for the viewer, in a strange, unfamiliar environment that feeling is lost because one does not know where to go for help.
About creature design in AvP... so what? If the predators had mutated to have fur and rectangular ears I'd understand but they look extremely similar to me to the predators in the predator films. I personally don't judge films on slight variations of characters, like if they have a broader chest width to emphasize their heroic nature or extra teeth to humanize them.
Some people have said avp has worse acting. Please explain.
AvPR had gore. A lot of films have gore, buckets of gore does not improve my opinion of films.
AvPR made no sense in some respects. Why skin human beings when you're trying to eliminate evidence? Why take the mask off when a big deadly pred-alien could ram a barbed tail into you at any time? When the alien got shot having leapt on the helicopter window screen, why didn't it's blood even touch the screen? When the Wolf spun around and slammed his blade into the predalein's ribcage how come no blood came out?
EDIT: I forgot to mention the crappy dialogue of AvPR: "hey, people are dying, we need guns." I can understand people being direct in life and death situations but did we really need: "People are dying."
Also: "The government doesn't lie to people."