Quote from: Kradan on Aug 15, 2022, 05:01:46 AMWhat stupid decisions are these ?
Forgive me in advance if I forget something and have to add on to this later. My memory is damaged and I've only seen Aliens once.
Okay so, there's a slew of really stupid things that the characters in Aliens do. The marines are a bunch of jokers when they should be more with it, Burke is reckless, Lt. Boxes doesn't know what he's doing for half the movie, Drake sneaks ammunition into a dangerous area, the dropship was landed dangerously close to an infested building, Ripley risked the entire human race for a little girl (polarizing-ly out of character), and NOBODY was left on the Sulaco?
I am aware that most of these things can be explained away from bad writing as they are either thematically relevant or in-character. (Vietnam War parallels for the marines, Lt. Boxes is new and chokes, Burke is selfish, Ripley is having a character arc, etc. etc.) But the thing is when you look at the big picture, you realize that ALMOST EVERYONE was acting stupid. Even if you can explain them all individually, it's still bad writing that goddamn everyone is bein' stupid.
I also find the premise convoluted in itself. Ripley was in cryptosleep for decades and decades but just
happened to wake up within a couple months of the Derelict being rediscovered? Plus, with the exception of slimy Burke, Newt's lip, and Lt. Boxes' hero moment, I think the characters are
sooooo boring.
Every piece of media has plotholes and convoluted incidents, but Aliens has too many for me. So I can't help coming away from it thinking it's bad writing.
All that being said, it's fun! I won't pretend it's not! It's got great cinematography at points and the special effects are primo 80's practical effects. (And you know I love a good violence) But it's not a
good movie. Just a fun one. (Don't get hung up on the semantics there plz) And I really prefer something with a deeper and more believable character drama and moodier themes.
Quote from: SiL on Aug 15, 2022, 09:57:52 AMAlien eggs materialising on ceilings is not believable or real.
Well yeah silly, aliens aren't real <3
Quote from: BigDaddyJohn on Aug 15, 2022, 12:58:53 PMI was about to say that Alien 3, which I adore, stands entirely on a pretty big plot hole.
No but seriously, I hear this complaint a lot, but tbh it didn't really phase me? I don't see it being hard to believe that if the Queen could sneak onto the Sulaco then she could pick up an egg and toss it into the hallway as a fail-safe. Granted, everybody's tolerance for plotholes is different and it's all about the balance between convolutions and good writing, but it just.... didn't seem like a stretch to me?
If it changes anything, apparently it was a studio mandated insert?