Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 29, 2021, 02:49:25 AM
We can't pick and choose what's entered in Predator: Hunting Grounds for gameplay reasons and what isn't, to transform our desire into canon. The Jungle Hunter is, but the Viking Predator is not? The City Hunter is, but the Alpha Predator is not? Why, because two were featured in Predator movies (that we saw killed) and the other two weren't in a movie at all?
Its not picking and choosing if Illfonic already said so. Jungle and City are canonically dead, but present
only for gameplay reasons. Illfonic and Fox said the events of this game is canon, happens right after The Predator so idk what to tell you. Gameplay does not equal canon. Otherwise, you are telling me that one can continually block the attack of a +7ft 300lb alien super hunter, even though that can outmatch a human in pretty much all the stats....with a 6 inch knife?
Its noted both in the films and in the game that they are dead. Lore tapes said that OWLF examined the severed arm of CH and Dutch's tales after the events of the first film. Its noted and confirmed.
As for the other Predators, so far with the info we got from them, its very vague and open ended. Its been inferred that
maybe Viking has been slain in Valkyrie's bio and the reason why Valkyrie came to Earth as said in Illfonic's release blog:
QuoteAs we discovered in October, the Viking Predator can be traced back to when the Viking raiders managed to draw the attention of the Yautja. As the legends of this mighty creature spread, Norsemen saw an opportunity to gain an honorable death by way of this wanderer, so they continued to pursue glory. Few even relished over a Yautja death, which angered the Predators, so they sent in their fiercest warrior – the Valkyrie. This newest Predator class' sole purpose is to choose the slain worthy of a place in Valhalla. Many fought against her in search of glory, but none could best her. So beware, if you were able to bring a Viking Predator down, she is coming for you in this DLC pack.
Samurai and Valkyrie have
not yet been stated to be alive or dead in the current timeline, just that they existed, so its debatable if they are or not, leaving room for interpretation. Thats fine and its just more fun for people to think about. There is no real reasoning to suggest either are dead or alive. However this isn't the same for the trophies, as we all know how trophies were obtained, from hunting periods of time ago.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 29, 2021, 02:49:25 AM
One must always check themselves in regards to personal desire versus reality. We play as Predators, from different ages. We get to unlock and decorate ourself with trophies from the ages we've seen belonging to Predators in films, and others we've never seen before. Dutch 2025 can fight along Dutch 1987. Just because Cleopatra appears to have cool Egyptian looking armor, doesn't mean she was even ever in Egypt. Her tribes' ancestors may have and passed these influences to their kin. We just don't know.
Again, its obvious that Dutch 2025 and Dutch 1987 cannot canonically meet and fight alongside each other. Its plain to see that Illfonic don't need to comfirm this, it doesn't make sense in any way shape or form other than just for gameplay reasons. Its like for God of War, when people questioned why enemies are tougher to beat along the way when Kratos is a God of War, Cory Barlog says that otherwise there would be no game, as Kratos would just one shot them all with the exceptions of the boss battles, as they are Gods themselves. Some things are for gameplay purposes and others are for story reasons. They are not the same at all and I would need some actual substantial reason to why gameplay equals canon.
Its like Aliens Fireteam Elite for example, having the classic marine armor is pure cosmetics. There is nothing in the game that supports the canon presence of the armor design in the current time period of the game. However, in comparison to Hunting Grounds, it makes more sense that a Predator being living long as 10,000 years old seeing that they are established to be very long lived creatures that are known to take skulls and objects of the time period in which they hunted in, as we see with the Elder in P2. The only difference we have is just we have different ideas of where the line is.
Quote from: Voodoo Magic on Sep 29, 2021, 02:49:25 AM
Now, the lore tapes we can pull something more substantial from, but I think we should head-check ourselves with the rest.
Makes sense as its outright stated, while the trophies are just indicate how long they have been around. I wouldn't mind if we took this up to Illfonic in a tweet or even ask them the question in a future interview, if there will be any.