Quote from: Russ on Jan 02, 2015, 10:47:35 AM
Rakai said in the petition thread that Fox is too heavily invested in "Prometheus" to even consider this and, sadly, I'd be inclined to agree with him. The only "out" I can think of is that Ridders has stated many times that "Prometheus" shares the same DNA as "Alien" but isn't "Alien." So, to kick up Rakai's old ant-hill, could it be considered as AU or sidequel? In the same way that "Soldier" was to "Blade Runner."
Russ, I have to say that I am genuinely flattered that you like my whole AU approach to things. I really think that there are some AU's going on within the franchises similarly to how the Godzilla, Halloween and Highlander franchises have that going on, even if such aren't mentioned in-universe. Really, it does my heart good to see another fan accepting of that.
In regards to Prometheus, and Blomkamp's would be Alien project and making comparisons to Soldier and Blade Runner.. It's really hard to say to what is going on anymore with the franchise as far as continuity and canon is concerned. So far it seems that Prometheus is the Status Quo right now. Fox is too invested in it financially and creatively to just let it go and return to Alien. Infact, I'm even going to say that they've put the Alien to pasture and are leaving it only active as far as EU material is concerned. But as far as prequels and sidequels go, well... Fans can choose what they like at the moment (I say at the moment because so far Fox has to release a statement on what is canon and isn't) to what serves as a prequel (AvP or Prometheus) or what is a spin-off and a sequel. It's open to interpretation.. for now.
In the case of Soldier and Blade Runner.. I know that Anderson had set it to be in the same universe as Blade Runner according to interviews, but I would say that's something.. unofficially linked together. Looking at the Wikipedia page, it's probably best to look at Soldier as a spiritual sequel and something unofficially linked, despite having heavy references of Blade Runner in the movie.
Quote from: HuDaFuK on Jan 02, 2015, 10:57:47 AM
On the other, Hicks is dead, stop trying to shoe-horn him back into the franchise because of the crying fanboys. Look how well that went in ACM.
Retcons, retcons and more retcons.. I sort of feel your pain there, Burne (can I call you Burne?). I think the Alien franchise is suffering from a narrative and story telling stand-point because of the major retcons which are going on that Fox is rather.. taking a pro-active approach towards. I maybe more of a Predator fan but for something like Aliens: Colonial Marines to be held high as film canon despite the sloppy retcons which it introduced is very jarring. I'll be the first to say that Hicks is a very cool character, and that maybe he shouldn't have died in Alien 3 but Alien 3 came and went.. for those of us who liked it-- we have a cool movie to add to our films. For those of us who hated Alien 3... Do what you need to do to cope with it but the fact of the matter is, it's here and it exist and it ain't going anywhere.. For now anyway.
What's more jarring than Alien: Colonial Marines is the fact that Fox had considered and almost went through with retconning Alien 3 and Resurrection. The fact that Christopher Golden had to talk to them into changing their minds suggest that they were ready to effectively re-write the Alien side of things as far as the Alien-Predator franchise is concerned. The question is.. How were they going to do it?
As I said before, the franchise is SUFFERING because of the retcons. A retcon in film format would perhaps not be the best idea because erasing Alien 3 and Resurrection out of canon would... really be hard. Those two films can't just be hand waved away, they can't be just ignored (sure they could but.. ignoring something DOESN'T make it go away). The whole "Ripley's Nightmare", while a desperate fan solution to erasing those movie is seemingly wanted even after TWENTY THREE YEARS, is definitely a cop-out and perhaps a bad move and direction for a franchise to go.
No more retcons. I'm getting done with them.