When it rains, it pours! After so much secrecy and radio silence surrounding Fede Álvarez’s upcoming Alien: Romulus, members of a recent test screening of the film are just letting loose and we’ve got an APC load of Alien: Romulus details.
It should go without saying, but beware major spoilers. Once again, please do not continue to read if you don’t want to spoil the film. You have been warned.
Following some general details that they posted yesterday, Scified has shared more specific details provided by V Scooper about Alien: Romulus. First is that the film will include a new weapon that looks similar to the iconic Pulse Rifle. This is another detail that Alien vs. Predator Galaxy can corroborate. White in colour, the new weapon shares many design elements with the M41A Pulse Rifle including the carry handle, and an underslung pump action.
The second upload that Scified shared today is something related to what we posted in our own intel about the connections between Alien: Romulus and the prequel films and the original Alien. This has been speculation that we’ve seen and enjoyed being posted on our message boards for some time, and we can now confirm the truth behind it. Big Chap’s remains are recovered at the start of Alien: Romulus.
We have been told that in Alien: Romulus we will learn that Weyland-Yutani did in fact recover the Xenomorph from the Nostromo incident. The iconic Big Chap Xenomorph, thought to be dead after it was jettisoned out of the airlock managed to SURVIVE, albeit in rough shape and was floating in space until it was recovered and brought to the Romulus research station. From there, scientists reverse engineered its DNA and extracted the Black Goo material which they then use to run their own experiments on – creating their own Facehuggers and Xenomorphs.
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I'll settle at that.
Just sit back and enjoy the ride.
This was like a 100 page debate, so I'm not going to go into the wayback machine and find them all but they exist. There is contradictory stuff between the scripts and movies themselves, between the scripts and their sequel scripts, etc.
One thing I can remember is something as simple as the jockey ship signal. In the alien movie script Dallas (I think) turns off the signal. In Aliens earthquakes destroy the signal. So which is it? Which out of universe explanation do you use? The oldest, the more recent. Do you use the alien explanation watching Alien and the Aliens one watching Aliens?
The simplest explanation is to go what is shown on screen instead of all that background bs that changes between directors word of mouth, what we see in newer movies etc.
Script is out of universe. Using scripts is like taking Scott's word at every interview concerning the franchise he's ever done when he's the biggest waffler on the planet and literally will change his takes on stuff from one interview to the next. If it isn't on screen, it doesn't count.
Do not restart the great JA Eyers/Kimarhi Ronso vs Maledoro/Deezleboy war.
We see the crew walking around on the Nostromo whilst it's in FTL. The Covenent crew who aren't keen to get back into cryo are awake for 2 weeks whilst at FTL, opting to investigate the planet that Shaw's signal originated from rather than continue to their original destination. And in Alien Resurrection, Wren explains that she ship has stealthruns, and that there was no way you could tell it was moving (whilst granted, the latter is 200 years in the future, it supports what we have seen in each movie).
Lambert's display also shows it. You can see their course represented by a slightly curved line from their point of departure to their current location, with the rest of their course represented by the dotted line to their destination--which you can see is actually labeled "SOL" if you look closely enough. Even the number at the top could indicate, in light-years, the total distance that their plotted course will take them. Half of 74.4 is 37.2, which is pretty close to the distance between Sol and Z2R.
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Dallas says so, after he consulted Mother.
The script isn't ambiguous though.
Maybe I'm mis remembering that though.
The Alien probably won't actually hit the window, it'll more than likely be a proximity warning or some shit and hapless crew number one brings it on board.
One way is a whole lot easier to calculate though.
It's going to be silly though because we know that they don't have either source of information to go by. If they had the Nostromo black box they would've just went to LV426. They don't have the shuttle because we see it in Aliens. It's literally going to be a bug on window moment more than likely, or as Sil said they just don't bother to explain it which is probably the better deal.
Maybe the fans of the original put too much into it and SAID it was big chap, and it really is just another ejected Alien somewhere, which might be the best save they could come up with. We know that David is out there with a ship full of victims, maybe some got loose and fought back and don't have aliens traveling at potential light speed.
Sil posted before you.
What?
Either way, twenty years after the fact. Now I'm just making myself upset because the set up is so dumb.
I could also argue that there are tech differences between Alien, and Alien Resurrection, not because Ares shouldn't exist, but because it so far north of the timeline when it takes place. What was it, 200 years past Aliens?
That was a nice try though. I respect it.
On a side note, I also think that there would have to be some kind of safeguard when the ships were in a planetary system to prevent massive spaceships from FTL jumping into colonized worlds. By accident or by terrorism. It would be the quickest way to end a planet, just target a civilization you didn't like and send FTL ships at them with no intention of ever slowing down. That has nothing to do with anything, just something I've thought about before.
The only person walking around in either of the FTL scenes was David/Walter though from what I remember about the dumpster fire and Covenant.
Resurrection is the most explicit, as the return trip from Pluto to Earth is faster than light and they're all awake.
If it was going the FTL then yes this is a possibility. If it wasn't the speed of light then it wouldn't be pulled toward anything for what would be an eternity. It takes our fastest ship now 77,000 years to reach the next closest star.
Until somebody in universe says that the ships are going FTL or faster (they aren't zipping around Acheron in Alien or Aliens it only takes light 3 minutes to go from the sun to earth so if they were always in FTL speed then they would constantly be zipping past the planets) when the crew is awake, then I don't believe it, and everything could be formulated to find the Alien. Yalls non american math just sucks because you use the metric system. If you used standard like we do, it would make sense how you could program machines capable of going FTL to reverse track the Nostromo and its shuttles flight plan and investigate anything outside the norm.
This is all moot anyways, because the movie won't give us anything like that, and we know that the shuttle wasn't recovered till Aliens so there is no way they can have that half of the puzzle in any way that would make sense.
Ahhh same though eh, people call me Irish and I'm Scottish I let it fly
Spanish man, translates the whole AVP plot for us without looking down the camera , dies stuck to a wall from Lex ( with tears).
*Emotional moment
I just had flash backs of Sebastian telling us the whole plot of AVP from three inscriptions on a random wall.
I'm pretty much coming up with all the answers here.
Not to mention Ripley and everything else in the shuttle probably would've been turned into mush by decelerating that quickly.
Yes, but it travels at the speed of light. Ripley, Big Chap, the shuttle, the Nostromo are all faster than light at this point.
Exactly.
X1M would've already figured out how fast the shuttle was going just by that scene alone. Also, it looked like it is flung straight back from the Nostromo exhaust. The angle of the shot makes it look different.
As for radar, it picks up and bounces back solid objects. It has nothing to do with whether things are living or dead. It isn't scanning for live pilots in aircraft but the whole shebang. Other software spot checks the IFF on the plane to see if its friendly or not. If your radar isn't far enough away from trees, it'll f**k up how your readings are displayed by not allowing proper air coverage..........which is an indicator of something being in the way. Which should set off alarm bells to anything in that deep of a void in space. Even if your radar DIDN'T register it as a ship, it would register it as something. Since space is mostly an empty void, any solid object where it is not supposed to be would probably register with ship AIs like MUTHER. We've had the sentinel radar pick up cars that were driving on elevated roads. Humans wouldn't be doing the ground work here. Even if they could calculate it, an AI could do it faster.
We are getting too far into the weeds with this. It makes no sense for them to just bring back the Alien and not go after the Jockey tech, and other more accessible Aliens if they had the Nostromo's black box flight coordinates and evidence for the shuttle and its flight path. So it is most likely going to be a no explanation given other than we found it in space to avoid all the hows.
Birds would be actively moving in a living environment, so I can understand radar picking them up. The Alien however would be a dead floating object in a vacuum.
Just like the Prometheus rock painting navigation bs.
As for radar, being a newly appointed radar person myself in my new Army job, we currently have radar that can detect something as small as birds. So in a 100 years in the future, that won't be an issue unless tech just stops developing, but it won't, because that radar is already being replaced with a newer one.
Surviving I'll buy, finding, no.
We think that the shuttle blast would've sent the alien shooting away at thousands of miles per hour and that we would never be able to find them. By today's earthlocked standards yes. But in Alien, ships move FTL, so that distance would be nothing to explore and you have android (supposedly have 300 iqs) and advanced computer systems to help triangulate directions and all that garbage.
That is the least unbelievable thing to me UNLESS they try to handwave it. Some joes were just cruising around and pigeon to windshielded Big Chap. That would be garbage.
Having the shuttle data and NOT going back for the Jockey Ship is the major bugaboo. I suppose a minor one would be if Big Chap is still this films antagonist, because he did take a facefull of shuttle afterburner to the grill. Even if lack of convection means heat wouldn't transfer to his body the same way it would on earth, it's still hot, and he was still right in it.
So I suspect they WILL handwave it.
I dunno. We'll see I guess.
This is where you need gamegossips X1M to come in here and give all the scientific mathmatical equations to show that finding the Alien wouldn't be the problem if they had a starting point to go off of.
A man can dream.