Quote from: Trash Queen on May 06, 2021, 05:18:45 AM
They became hybrid forms designed to kill other life though, the worms (or Hammerpedes), and Charlie Holloway and Sean Fifield (or Abominations), it is fairly nonsensical for the Pathogen to kill it's own creations, immediately anyway, so it makes sense that once infected then becoming transformed they become immune.
It's intelligent after all as confirmed by David the Pathogen's an artificial intelligence itself.
Also consider the factor that within the LV-223 temple we only see the Ampules start to sweat the Pathogen out when the atmosphere's changed in the room reacting to the heat and light and presumably also living things, we know this to be the case because when David later walks through the cargo hold the ones located in it remain completely inert covered in a mist, when deployed from the Juggernaut they shake intensely exposed to considerably much more heat, and light, and wind and bodies than before.
To use an analogy it's much like a soda can with the Pathogen in the Ampules, only in this case instead of dropping a mint in the soda, it is being exposed to the right conditions that causes "the activation" that wipes clean a planet of all life that can be classified as fauna.
I didn't mean when the Hammerpedes were swimming in the stuff before they attacked Fifield, I meant the worms swimming in the pathogen before they became grotesque creatures. Which does happen.
Quote from: judge death on May 06, 2021, 06:32:07 PM
Well we dont see the worms getting infected by the pathogen so its likely only parts of it touched them, and once they were mutated they were able to move and swim around in the black goo/pathogen without any danger for them.
Okay I have only the DVD of covenant so havent seen those deleted scenes but myself prefer the black goo to be just a dangerous substance and not an AI that can be reprogrammed. But I guess it was told as such in the scenes so I guess its what it is although its not shown as such in the normal movie but that is an question of opinion I think.
We do see it. It happens at 42:01 to 42:05, right after David is leaving with the others to try and outrun the incoming storm. The little guys are getting quite a big dose of the pathogen for their size, they're swimming in the stuff. The dose theory doesn't work, it's not consistent with the prequels.
And TQ, even if the pathogen is kinda an AI, run on ancient algorithms, that doesn't mean it can make decisions at all. Nowhere is that supported. Even by David it's described as chaotic and with limitless possibilities (aka the writers can do whatever they want with it). Not enough hard rules have been given to the pathogen. White is trying and we'll see what Gaska does in full with it, but the films certainly don't present anything too logical.
The best explanation for the differences in Covenant's and Prometheus' portrayal of the pathogen is that they were used differently. That could have different effects, but again it really should have been explained a bit better.
The way you're describing it, it sounds like the Ampules are a two part thing that when shaked and mixed it's much more lethal and airborne, while in Prometheus when that's not done, you get a liquid (one part) that makes a lot more mutants?
Plausible, but it does annoy me that I'm certain they weren't thinking of that and is in no real way supported with any comment from the creative team involved and that it certainly won't be considered in the future.