Quote from: SpreadEagleBeagle on Jan 14, 2016, 09:04:35 PM
But it IS happier than ALIEN. You're cherry picking when you compare the two movies and endings based on the structural makeup of each movie. It's like saying that pee and wine is the same thing as they're both liquids.
Both movies end with the character(s) fulfilling their goal and going to sleep peacefully. That's not cherry picking. Ripley wanted to survive in
Alien, she got it. She wanted to survive and protect Newt, she got it. Both films end with the characters safe and satisfied; family or not,
that's just dressing.
QuoteWe've had similar discussions before you and I,
Yeah, and you always march out the same arguments and I march out the same counterarguments. That's why you think it's repetitive.
QuoteNo I didn't.
Um:
QuoteALIEN is mainstream too, obviously, but it's not the same kind of mainstream as ALIENS - not even close.
This. This is what I'm talking about. This is cherry picking, this is melodrama, this is bias, this is
dumb.
Alien wasn't some midnight movie. It wasn't an underground sleeper hit. It wasn't a video nasty. It was a 20th Century Fox production, made because sci-fi and horror were "in" and they thought they could make a buck from it. It's a mainstream horror film from the 70s every bit as much as
Aliens was a mainstream action/horror from the 80s. They were both designed to attract large audiences and make money.
There is no "grade", no "type". They were both made to make their audiences happy. Their audiences were largely the same people, but trends had changed in the 80s. If
Alien had been made 10 years later, it would have been a
very different film, even with the same people.
QuoteFact still remains that I haven't seen you scrutinize and pick apart ALIENS as you do with the other movies, especially A3.
Then you haven't read many of my posts, because I've done it plenty in the past.
Everyone here can vouch for that. Hell,
Colin f**king Strause, co-director of
AvP: Requiem, could tell you I don't like
Aliens, because he
personally derided me for the fact on this Forum.