Quote from: Corporal Hicks on Nov 19, 2015, 08:43:48 AM
Quote from: Hubbs on Nov 18, 2015, 06:44:37 PM
Guys, it's a main British paper, Daily Mail, I hardly think they are lying
Wow. First person alive to ever say that about the Daily Mail. I don't trust the trade media in general. They all have some slant towards sensationalism for sales or for political gain. The Daily Mail is notorious for it.
Personally I hate weighing in on these conversations as I'm neither left nor right. Nothing represents how I feel about things and I don't pretend to have the answer nor do I pretend to think we're not going to get attacked at some point - we will. But at the end of the day we've (and plenty others) have suffered attacks before. You can't blame the refugees for this as we've quite blatantly been attacked by people here under other means.
Nor do I think closing borders is an effective solution because we obviously have plenty of home grown terrorists (all those peoples trying to get out recently for example) and the states have its own problem with its own true blue crazies going nuts.
No one is essentially blaming the 'refugees' (the real ones that is, most are economic migrants), its the migrant channel they are using that is a high security risk because
no one is being checked and none of them are carrying any documentation (most deliberately so). Germany has had over 70,000 enter the country virtually completely unchecked, that is the big issue here.
Yes I agree, every country has home grown nut cases, but you can't really do much about that, gotta go with the flow. But the point is, why would you wanna
add to that with possible nut cases from abroad? why would you wanna make the threat bigger, wider, and give yourself a much harder time trying to contain it. Surely dealing with home grown nut cases is hard enough, no need to allow in more from the Middle East!
End of the day, as I said, if just
one incident occurs on US soil, and its linked to the refugees/migrants in any way, there will be a
massive backlash which could well change the US drastically.
Europe is already changing, things will start happening here now (EU and Merkel are up against it), but again, one more attack, if linked to the migrant channel in any way, expect complete
major upheaval.
Final point, I think the majority in Europe would now agree that having no borders across the EU is ridiculous, it just begs disaster. Even before any terrorist problems it was idiotic because people were just moving all over the show, mainly to the same places causing huge immigration issues. Each Euro country needs its own borders, the super continent thing just doesn't work, nice idea, but no, can you imagine if South America or Asia did this!