My point was the core of this "real man/be a man" ideal has always seemed to be security in one's self, and if so, then this was never a sex-specific quality, and instead a milestone in personal development.
I'm starting to think this "be a man" thing probably started centuries or millennia ago and somehow hasn't been killed off. If it ever held any meaning, it definitely doesn't now.
Telling some guy to "be a man" today results in some insecure f**ker that goes two ways---they either become awkward and end up hiding behind some crafted personality based on the perceptions of others (ala misc BB), or they become violent and sociopathic when the former type calls them gay.
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 27, 2014, 08:05:00 PM
We call that MGTOW: men going their own way.
Who is "we", and why does this need a label
and an acronym?
Two things I'm wholly convinced of:
A: People become like those they associate with.
B: Getting involved in modern rights groups will achieve the polar opposite of empowerment, and will earn you the right to feel both misunderstood and misrepresented.
I bring this up only because you said "we"
Quote from: DoomRulz on Sep 27, 2014, 08:05:00 PM
Quote from: Xeno Killer 2179 on Sep 27, 2014, 07:09:56 PMBut then.....women also do this....so is it possible this illusory figure, dubbed the "real man" is actually ego masturbation by the clueless majority, and not the whole picture?
Not sure I understand. The whole point of his experience is that men, contrary to popular belief, don't have a free pass on everything because supposed "male privilege".
I can see how my post was a little side tracked from the article. I didn't realize "male privilege" was a popular belief or something taken seriously outside these bubble groups that sometimes manage to penetrate the mass social awareness. I guess I'm just used to thinking it's obvious everyone has been fed shit at some point and no one hasn't been scathed by someone else's false beliefs. Maybe I just can't be surprised anymore.